So who pranged the Veyron??

I saw there was a dent along the underside of the offside of the car, was the Stig at fault??

great road test james!!! but another shock was the veyron! i was sad it wasn’t the fastest being a big veyron fan i was very shocked.

I didnt expect the veyron to not be top!
Also nice work at blackpool stig ;]

Yep come on spill the beans – who dented the Veyron. Noticed it too.

I can’t believe that the Zonda is faster than the Bugatti, and that the Bugatti wasn’t at the top!!
I was speechless!

Harry Enfield was great on the track! The whole ‘Clarkson Island’ spoof is absolutely hilarious, if you haven’t seen it, look on youtube because it is brilliant

Evil Stig, switchin on the lights, great episode!! Can’t wait till next week

2 years of waiting… I’m honestly not surprised.

I’m an avid Veyron fan, but making the nation and indeed the world wait for 2 years made me iffy about the Veyron coming top and indeed Volkswagon’s confidence in the car itself.

To be honest i had doubts that the Veyron would top the Gumpert but not by THAT margin. But I’m wondering: How fast would the Porsche GT9 9ff & the Koenigsegg CCX-R EDITION would do be cause the old CCX the stig crashed was STILL faster than the veyron by 0.6 of a second and with another 200bhp, I have high hopes for it and the Porsche. Anyone Else agree?

It was never going to be fastest. If they made a stripped out, track/road legal version, it would be a 1.15 probably.

Can you test the convertible on with the umbrella roof??

Surely JC should have known the Jag had terrific range, as he drove one up to John O’ Groats and back on a single tank a couple of years ago?

Lost for words…. A Veyron round the track and it wasn’t the fastest lap time…
Still I’m glad it didn’t beat the Koenigsegg.. I love that car lol

It wasn’t that shocking. The Bugatti EB 16.4 weighs 1.9 tonnes on it’s own, with no one in it. Thats 522 bhp per tonne, hardly the highest power to weight ratio. The F Roadster’s ptw is 528. Only slightly more, but its 1230kg to the Bugs 1880kg really made a difference in the corners.

That economy race was better than initially it sounded, that Jag is magic!! That engine in the new XF would’ve probably taken him back to Swizerland.

Shame May lost in the Legacy. I like that car. Mind you, I also like the Jag, so I’m not disappointed.

But Stig’s a cheeky bugger isn’t he?!

Definitely the weight. Thought the Zonda had it to be honest.

As for the economy test, it was fantastic but why didn’t they all take the Audi Jezza used to get to Edinburgh. I’d always take something that was proven to work.

Oh and slightly off-topic, the Stig is one of the best inventions in TV. You can have anyone under the helmet and, because he’s such an enigma, him doing average things is hilarious.

do the stripping thing with a veyron like u did with the avantime…then lets see whose the daddy now…1000bhp in a toaster…shud be fun =D

PCR, that was in an Audi A8.

I agree with VB about the Audi; and The Stig.

I’m not surprised at the Veyron either, going round the track it just seemed…. well, sluggish.
The Zonda on the other hand, that just danced round the track, the Stig loved it and so did I!

Poor Clarkson, he must be livid that his “POOOOWWWWEEEERRRRRR!” mindset has been proven to be codswhallop. For all its power and its technical ability, the Veyron is not the fastest around the track. It just proves its now about how much power you have, but how you can utilise it. I agree wtih James, the car is far to heavy for the track. With the quick direction changes the mass of the car is just to great for the suspension to cope with.

Great show, but i missed James power test *sob* Now i have to wait ’til Wednesday. Can’t belive the Veyron wasn’t at least 2nd, i honestly thought it would be 1st. Ecodrive great, didn’t realise cars could go that far when the car computer was saying “I should have stopped a mile back”

No9 PCR, wasn’t that an Audi?

PCR, I agree and I’ve forgotten all about that. Im sure he chose it because of that test he did with it. Im not surprised the Veyron isnt top, but its still one helluva car. And that Zonda F…. OMG!

Harry Enfield is an absolute legend!

the vw corrado vr6 is nicer than the veyron anyway and has a third of its engine.
Brilliant episode though, despite the controversial truck episode this series is a lot more like earlier ones which in my book is a good thing. The stig was hilarious in blackpool and there are a lot more james may bits now than there were before which is ace.
Jeremy, if you are reading this, can i get the music from yor 1996-2005 videos anywhere?

My god my heart was beating so fast for that veyron! I’ve been waiting for this moment for like forever! I really wanted that to come top! Sadly it didn’t but great car anyway.

Oh, it was an XJR by the way…

i do believe that the prang to the veyron happened on the follow through in a similar incident to the koniggseggengeg (or however the bloody hell you spell it before it had the top gear wing on it) and more eagle eyed viewers will noticve that the dent is very tyre shaped in profile!

The ESP button on the Bugatti Veyron is hidden under the steering column. Possibly the Stig didn’t turned the ESP off.

yes pcr it was the jag xjr but he didnt go there and back, only there and he went to Edinburgh and back in the Audi

Crackin show aswell, it was funny watchin seeing jeremy trying to get as little mpg as possible

Oh my gosh! What an amazing epsiode! Shame about the veyron . . but the Zonda WOW.

Definatley the best so far of this series and one of the best episodes ever of the “new” Top Gear !!!

PCR Is Incorrect A Little Bit

Jeremy Actually Drove An Audi A8 To John O Groats And Back, Not A Jag!!

And Whereabouts Is This Dent. Becuase I Just Though It Was A Big, Long Air Vent/Scoop.

–Mikey B–

James’ “POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER” test, wow *is speachless*. He really is full of surprises (I was really looking forward to that segment). I loved the drag race as part of it too. Please let the Captain do more power tests. And please let him do a Stig intro as well (he looked like he really wanted to do his first ever Stig intro). What’s with the mick take from Jeremy about James spinning off? How many times has Jeremy spun off in his power tests? I agree with James’ quip about his hair getting in the way of his eyes. I have the exact same problem sometimes, which isn’t very helpful to me when I’m about to walk into the road to cross it or when I’m trying to eat something and it gets in what I’m eating.

Stig in Blackpool cracked me up. He’s another one full of surprises.

Ian, It’s Koenigsegg (I believe, or could be wrong) or rather Koenigseggeggeggegg.

James test track was FANTASTIC. Good job!
Great episode tonight, just what the doctor ordered.
Was surprised ’bout the Veyron, though a few years ago it would have been top of that board for sure!
Big thanks again TG Team. Have a good week!

I’ve got a stripy top like Mr May’s, well it’s blue…. not pink but it looks similar. I don’t have a helmet like the Stig’s though…. But then…neither does Mr. May……

Full marks to the Jag, excellent piece of kit that.
Just goes to show what true fuel ‘economy’ is about.

Zonda F Roadster vs. Bugatti Veyron? One epic race. I can’t believe the Veyron wasn’t faster round the track though – all those years of waiting, just to be disappointed.

Loved James’ power test and his impression of Jeremy (“POWEEEEEEER!”). I can’t believe the Jag made it all the way to Blackpool and could still have gone further (especially with the non-economic driving).

Very glad to finally see some ribbing re: Hammond’s supermarket ad. Was waiting for that and couldn’t believe it hadn’t come sooner. The Clarkson Island thing was hilarious and it’s great to see Jeremy making fun of someone making fun of him.

Another excellent episode, looking forward to next week!

(Love how interactive the new site is, letting us post our thoughts after each episode and on The Mole’s posts during the week. Thanks for that!)

When you make a car that is capable of running to 253 mph in what can only be described as a reasonably luxurious manner, it’s probably a bit unreasonable to expect it to be as nimble around a racing track as cars which are slightly more purpose built for the job? The Veyron GT edition might just push it over the last little bit of the gap with its extra 250 bhp though….

a real shame about the veyron but real edge of the seat action very funny when lord stig turned on the lights cant wait for the bus race next week

Brilliant episode
Where’s the cool wall?!?!?!?

I do love Clarkson and Topgear but Clarkson does make me laugh, slags off Peugeot at every opportunity then when the 307 came out in 2001 the topgear mag rates it as there best car of the year!!! also the Jaguar S type that took Clarkson round the Nurburgring in under 10 mins and the Jaguar XJR that did so well on the mpg race, well guess what powered by a Peugeot 2.7 V6 diesel (Dont want to mention that eh Clarkson!!)

great show as always
not suprised about the veyron

I just don’t get why jag would make a fuel gauge the would read 0 when there are still 120 miles left in the tank?! Why not give a more accurate reading and save people needlessly pulling over for fuel because their tank is “empty”?

How Did Veyron Do A 1:18
Mean Stig Hammond Should have done it
Well Done James On Your Zonda F Test
Jezza Where Was The V8 Stairleft?

great point hope the cool wall is on thi series

… and once again 2 of yout intripid reporters flew out of heathrow, looking at Rado watches no less… when a young lad desprate to get an autograph of his hero approached a little hampster.. did the the young boy get his wish, someyhing to be prud of or tell his mates at school……NO! the person in question fumbled around in his pocket for his long lost phone and in talking to his his phone made him disapear!!! while the other chap (we wil call hime June) was more intrested in the inner orkngs of a glass door.
To top it all when my own member of staff spoke to the “little one ” about “Aston” he was unable to finish the word when this little fellow screwd up his face with a snarl “ASTON!” he said “whats that!!!” had he let the conversation flowed he would have found out that the person he had spoken to had stared in a James Bond movie no less and was trying to strike up a conversation in which he was going to ask this “little chap” his thoughts of what had been the best bond car, as it is he will now not be watching tg ever again …… GREAT PR….NOT
As for me well just look at the cars and watches and how their lives are becoming intwind would love to do an article how the two are fused together… what say you
Andrew

When Will Cool Wall Be Back

Pwhaor, that Bugatti was good, even if it wasn’t the fastest. You could just see the Stig desperatly try to coax more power out, but it just couldn’t apply it due to the weight. Brilliant car, completely epic.

And who pranged the beast? Seriously! Best car in the world and you dent it. Love to see the reaction from whoever’s insurance claim that goes to.

i would enjoy it more if i knew why i cant get any of the videos on this site to work…. (hint hint)

Andy aka the watch That was not about the show

Damn good episode! im seriously pissed that james got FORTY minutes late for the ceremony… especially after he tested the pagani! i think he shud stick to the testing more civilized cars, but that zonda F was BRILLIANT! i was honestly shocked it anialated the veryron.
I was particularly pleased that the veyron didnt beat the koenigsegg ccx! :):p

Oh and the early 307s were piles of sxxt i know i sold them! and still do, i guess Peugeot are not paying topgear any back handers!!!

they should now get the ccxr and have a drag race between it and the veyron ^_^

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I thought last week’s episode was an affront to intelligent television whereas this week’s was brilliant (something your fantastic guest talked about- making the show they wanted, not what would appeal the lowest common denominator).

This is how TopGear should be! Please remember where you came from… this was spot on. I expect some of your ‘fans’ would have found episode 4 boring due to distinct lack of stupidity (not comedy- stupidity; very different things) but pleeeeease keep doing an Enfield, and make the show you want to, with cars in it at everything!

Cheers for the excellent save.

I echo the words of everyone’s disappointment a regards the Veyron, just shows how much of a great test that track is. I was however disappointed with the news. When they mentioned the bit about “theres no need to have a peugeot” it was exactly same story that they didnt include two weeks before. Is there not much news in the world of motoring? Or was the story just to funny not to include?

oh my god poor bugatti i am a great fan but it isnt designed to go round a track. were’s topgear stunt man were’s the cool wall and were was that v8 nice road test james

Btw mega max the porsche gt9 9ff would be pis* its 0-60 is 6 seconds and because it was built for top speed and that also means it has hardly and downforce and would be a pig at corners. Plus the keoniggsegg ccxr im not sure it would be that fast around a track there is such a thing as too much power.

I had a feeling the Bugatti Veyron wouldn’t be able to beat the Gumbert Apollo. It is indeed too heavy.

It did take me by surprise though, that it failed to beat the Koenigsegg CCX. And to be honest, I’m over the moon! The CCX is my absolute favourite car of them all.

I’m also thankful that the Zonda Roadster failed to beat the Koenigsegg as well.

why is every1 surprised about how the veyron didnt top the lap times. i have said for ages that the veyron wont be quickest as there is to much power and not enough track to get the power down, people will recall it took nearly 4 miles to get to 252mph on vw test area in germany, of course its the fastest car by a long way in a strait line but when it comes to corners its 2nd best to the awesome gumpert.

Great show!! loved the way the stig stole richard’s thunder by pulling the lever classic!!! Am also not suprised the veyron didn’t come at the top, But i think i am quite bias as my fave super car is the Gumpert. Still great show can’t wait till next week!!!

Again, anougher brilliant, jaw-droping show!
Great road test, “POWEEEERRRRRR!” awesome line
I cant berlieve that the Bugatti was not on the top spot i really thought it would be right up there. Oh well.
An eco run on Top Gear OMG wow, it was really exiting, i cant berlieve that Jag wowzer!
And the Dacia Sandero joke was just the cherry on the cake!

loved the show as always, and this is who a FANTASTIC car show should be like, still just as funny but full of car like stuff as well thanks!

love Top Gear!

Jaguar diesel!!! i dont think so its a Peugeot HDi 2.7 YES Peugeot the company Topgear likes to slag off at every opportunity!! the same Peugeot diesel that took clarkson round the nurburgring!!!!

The car JC drove to Edinburgh & back was an Audi A8 Turbo Diesel, the car he drove to John O’Groats was an XJR. Surely everyone has seen them often enough on Dave to know by now!?

Briliant show tonight, one of the best, it seemed so strange watching Captain Slow zooming round the track for a change, but great to see – I hope James gets to do more power tests, I thought it was good the way he learned the track by going round in his Panda first. Good work Captain, but one piece of advice – if you’re gonna do regular power tests, perhaps it might be a good idea to keep your hair short!!!

Great race tonight too, thoroughly enjoyed it, while I wasn’t as gullable as a lot of viewers, I knew the Veyron wouldn’t be the fastest on the track, it’s got brilliant speed – in a straight line, but too much power for going round a track, also it’s too heavy, and unable to put all its power down, it’s not surprising it came 4th, til the Zonda F went round, that made the Veyron 5th fastest. Disappointed? Not really, the Veyron’s a fantastic car, but even that can’t be brilliant at everything.

i was just watching it again on ‘on demand’ and i noticed the dent on the Veyron, sooo…

Who dented it then… Jamesssss or Stigggggg???

lol
go on spill the beans!

scooby, the Bugatti Veyron will actually do 0 to top speed back to 0 in around 2.9 miles not 4 miles.

great episode. xxxxxx

I believe the Bugatti was not the fastest because it was filled with all sorts of things you would find in an ordinary car, as pointed out by Richard one time. Radio, airbags(?) etc… Whereas the Gumpert probably does not have these things, meaning it is lighter and will of course, be faster

Wow – the road-going luxury rocketship Veyron wasn’t as fast as the stripped out racecar Gumpert on a track – who would have thunk it…?

/sarcasm off

Loved the Jag diesel, but unfortunately only the american episode (which was one of the best ever) has rated above average for me so far this season.

Just before this episode tonight was the original USA trip on DAVE – I’m sorry but tonights didn’t even come close.

The editing is getting sloppier as well – you used to hardly be able to tell where the cuts were – now they stick out so badly you may as well put a clapper board out.

I do hope the rest of the series picks up.

I don’t get how anyone could ever think of a Veyron beeing fast around a racing track. Just because it can go 407 km/h doesn’t mean it is a racing car like the Gumpert.

I can’t believe the Veyron! I sat there, with my fingers crossed praying it would knock the Gumbert off the top and it didn’t even come in the top three!!! Gutted….

James’s PPPPOOOOWWWWEERRRRR test.. all I can say is FINALLY we have had a chance to see what he can really do if he puts his mind to it. Hopefully this is the first of many. Not too sure about the car though.

Thank you for showing the Blackpool race. Me and my mum were in the crowd that day and it brought back some wonderful memories of a fab mother and daughter weekend.

Top Gear thank you once again for being the highlight of my weekend.

Long may you reign!!

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WHY!!!! is Top Gear still not availiable on the BBC I-Player??? its around 23.10 ish and the the shows either side of it are there and ready to watch…..

if i was a dragons den fan i could watch my show an hour after it aired (9.pm) at 10pm but here i sit after 11pm still waiting for Top Gear…

Why the injustice….??? Why….?

Back to the Studio…….

I whould like VERY MUTCH to see the CCX-R on the track!

Hi,

great episode, didn’t fancy last weeks much , but now it was so much better.

I loved james’ head moving when he accelerated in the zonda…. haha LOL.

about the zonda, wooow, what a machine and that sound…

Liked the race also, but if james didn’t drove all the way around leeds, he would have won.

Go Captain SLow

greetings from Belgium

As an regular watcher of Top Gear, I could not help but feel disappointed by this weeks show and felt it lacked something. The people on this messaging board who had criticized last weeks show would have been sorely disappointed with this one. Normally I would defend the show but not this time I’m afraid. The race you did from Switzerland to Blackpool was completely mind numbingly boring and dull, as was most of the content of the show the only bit I did like however, was when you did the power test of both the Veyron and the Zonda and I was sorely disappointed that neither of those cars was able to knock the Gumpert (a frankly ugly car) off the top spot as the fastest car.

So, in all honesty I really think that unless new ideas are made for the show I can’t see it surviving another season although I really would like for you to prove me wrong as I enjoy the show most of the time and would like for it to continue but not if you’re going to be producing such rubbish as this.

SORT IT OUT PLEASE LADS!!!!!!!!

Well well well, it was a whole lot, well I mean two REALLY, of returning to firsts. Obviously, Mr. Enfield returning to the track, but also and James himself mentioned it.. The Zonda was tested on the ‘come back’ Top Gear in 2002.

James May’s test of the Zonda. Well, that was most entertaining. I hope he does some more. I got worried when i saw the Panda i admit, but I had hope and it paid off, everyone knows that James is secretly the Stig, after all, who forgets his performance in the battle vs. the Germans.

The Economy race. It was a bit repetitive of Jeremy’s test in the Audi from a few years ago. But in triplicate. A Jag diesel, a Subaru and a Polo.

And with that.. my comment has ended.

and i can’t forget saying i Never expected the Veyron to top the board.

very predictable that veyron wasnt at top. that car is only ment for straight line speed. through the corners you could see it was struggling. as james may said, its too heavy, it may be a supercar but its set up as a GT car, a automatic transmission (although DSG) and full of expensive/exotic materials that wasnt put in for weight saving reasons. its a luxury car.
extremly amazed by JCs jaguar.

May done well in the Zonda. Good on you mate.

The news section of the peugeot bipper or whatever it was, I saw that before. The exact same segment, about two weeks ago on the outtakes I think??? Did they just rehash the entire scripted segment? Very peculiar.

The challenge was interesting enough. They are all so competitive and so cruel to one another. Very funny tv.

To those of you who say Clarkson drove an A8 the to John O’Groats, I disagree, unless he done it a second time. I’m convinced he chose this XJ as he recalled how it just kept going even when it was telling him the tank was empty on that drive. I also recall how he talked about the game he played with the gauge, hoping it would get him home, getting there and then leaving it for his wife to fill it up again. He drove a, then brand new, Jaguar XJ the length of the UK in that show from a year or two back. You might recall Jeremy eating various chocolate bars for each meal, & discussing the comfort of the car. I also recall how he said it was a magnificent motorway muncher and that, yet, on the Scottish highland B-roads, the car seemed to ’shrink’ around him and felt nimble, agile and almost BMW 3 Series sized.

I’m glad the fat faced Veyron wasn’t fastest. It’ll give VW something to think about.

Enfield made a decent crack at the lap… good on him.

The Stig really made me laugh when he hit the lights.

I thoroughly enjoyed the show this week. Great work.

23.30 Top Gear became availiable on the i-player, seriously……

any hoo im off to watch it….

i’ll reprt my findings…….

back to the studio………………

if the Veyron went round when it first came out it would have been the fastest but it’s been 3 years since the first time it appeared on top gear “veryon V plane” challange. dissapointing.
overall a great show

Actually… I’m completely wrong. According to finalgear.com, it was an Audi A8 Jeremy drove the 800miles. Hmmmm… Memory is banjaxed. LOL

my motoring heart is broken after seeing the veyron lose

I was sad that after us waiting for it for so long that it wasn’t the quickest around the track

wow!!! don’t know whay was more tense. who would win the race (that was mean stig) or wither the zonda would beat the veyron (glad it did) so it’s slippers this time is it boys? wish i knew what the bets were!!!!!

Very nice show this one! I was laughing as tickled. Thank you for that!

There was only one thing that kept my mind busy – and it was mpg race.

My ‘95 Audi 80 Avant 1,9 TDi goes 1200 km (~745 miles) with one tank (64 litres = ~14 Gallons) loaded with 4 people and stuff in the booth. My last big route went from Riga (Latvia) to Krakow (Poland), witch means driving mostly through “fantastic” polish roads packed with small villages, constant road repairs and Warsaw’s traffic. And it took me around 16 hours to make it. Strangely I was not dead after the trip, because the car is still comfy.

So the question is – what is the progress in car industry in these 13 years if we can get the same results in cars that are in different tales (in terms of age).

Well , regarding the veyron – it is all down to the track , if was a bigger proper track like silverstone it would have possibly smashed the pagani and it looked like the stig didnt really push it that hard and the traction was obviously ON..
Secondly its the first time i got the idea that clarkson seems to be preparing his retirment in a way..dont ask how i got down to this but i do get the feeling on that..i hope i am wrong
never the less , best episode this season

Some idiot posted here that the 2.7 V6 Jag was powered by a Peugeot V6?!! Where do these people come from?!

Anyway TG team, that was another great episode

Awesome show!!! The balance between cars and fun was perfect. I was in stitches at Clarkson during the race. The Zonda/Bugatti was awesome as was James’s review of the Zonda.

Is it just me that thinks the Veyron Stig lap might have been done with the TC still on, it looked a bit like it off the line and then the jumpy tyre squeal and unnatural lack of oversteer. Also, the Veyron seemed to have excessive understeer throughout the lap which could be caused by TC?

People who were dissapointed by the Veyron laptime, should have expected as much. All the cars above it on the board are lightweight and track/race oriented. The Veyron has the best straight line acceleration/speed as demonstrated by the drag race they had.

The fact that VW never allowed Veyron to do a power lap, always put a doubt in my mind, Im just surprised that it managed composed lap on the track…

Or did it? The dent on the right side skirt suggests to me that it is quite a handful with the TC off. Perhaps the laptime is what it is because it was done with the TC on.

Get rid of the rubbish guest or get better ones in please.

I would have hoped that topgear is of a certain quality that it need not compile an entire news segment on a previous outtake.

Regarding the Jag XJ and the Audi A8 confusion: Jeremy drove the A8 from london to edinburgh and back on a single tank a total of 800 miles. Whereas I recall Jeremy drove the Jag to see if how long it would take him to get bored. While driving he came up with a game where the fuel light came on and he drove past a fuel station to see if he could make it to the next station for fun. Then when he got to the next station and drove past that too, and so on and so on.

Not a bad episode, shame about the news segment.

Do the race over Bugatti Veyron needs it’s back wing down

I tink the only reason the veyron didn’t finish as the fastest car is because the wind brake at the back slowed it down to mcuh going into the corners, id like to see them do a lap witout using it and cant believe james may finished last in an economy race

When I saw that the Veyron was going to be on the track, I was very excited, but as the moment drew closer, something told me that it may not beat the Gumpert, but I thought it would match it, not be over a second slower!

Wow, and that Jag is phenomenal.

Is it only me that thinks that the guests this series have been rather poor, and the news segments not as funny? Jeremy needs to go looking on the internet again…

Cant say I’m shocked at all with the Veyrons time. In fact in a text exchange before the lap, I predicted the Veyron would hit about a 1:18, and was bang on. The Gumpert and the Ascari and just about all the other cars heading the powerboard are all hardcore road rockets, something the Veyron doesnt try to be. Instead it is a civilised, comfortable easy car to drive (or rather thats the opinion of just about any lucky git to drive one) which also happens to have 1000bhp and a top speed of over 250. Cant find the lap times on this new site, but off the top of my head the next comfortable civilised easy driving car down is the SLR at 1:20 something, so the Veyrons time was still unbelievable. Great show tonight, love seeing Stig out and about, James did well with the Zonda too, POOOOOOWEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

ok im curious was the veyron driven with the ignition key activated threw the door or did it just start normaly apart from that the show was brilliant and i kinda knew jeremy would make it because of the audi hetested a few years back and the audi had a bigger engine however the distance wasntthe same i think!

I thought Jeremy would’ve driven the Audi A8 again since he did an economy run in it before, but the Jag is surprising despite Jeremy trying his best to waste fuel in France! Though happy to see the VW Polo won it since I drive one myself!

Not at all surprised with the Veyron, it did seem undramatic in my eyes but the Zonda F Roadster was awesome on the track!

okay…..finally finished watching this weeks episode and i liked it….alot.

Last week i was disappointed and this week, i was not.

really was a classic Top Gear episode, 2 Track Tests, a fuel test and a race and i now know i want to own a diesel Jaguar……

a good balanced show.

Other than episodes being 2 hours long, (which lets face it is any real TopGear fans dream)

What more can you ask for from a factual/entertainment car show??

We get a bit of everything from this show and it’s easily one of the best TV shows on Telly.

Full Stop…The End….

Back to the Studio……

the Veyron didnt seem to be the most powerful i have seen?? probably the tc holding it back… why did it have a dent?? private owned?? great show and loved the challenge!

oh and James Power Testing the Zonda….

how could i forget….genius…although at one point i forgot i was watching topgear and thought i was watching that other show James does on thursdays…..

But that said….Genius…

Long Live Top Gear

Back to the Studio…………..

That drag test did prove how much faster that Bugatti actually is in a straight line though! It didnt just beat the Zonda, it thrashed it. I had visions that it would have been near the caparo T1’s time so to say it was abit of a shock was an understatement to me!

i was surprised that the zonda beat the bugatti

I think it was ESP that held the Bugatti Veyron back especially the fact that the ESP button on the Bugatti Veyron is hidden under the steering column. If it was massive weight, how come it didn’t understeer on the hammerhead corner?

Not surprised in the slightest that the Veyron wasn’t top. It’s got too much weight to corner quickly and over such a small track never was going to have the room to claw the corner deficits back in the straights. Still, I just love how effectively it decelerated and how composed it looked. It didn’t look blisteringly fast like the DBR9, the T1 or the Zonda, but it’s a different beast. In terms of power it still destroyed the Zonda and given the weight of the thing, that’s amazing.

I’m still a fan and I’m not even gutted. Love the car. It’s got total comfort in it’s awesomeness without having to win everything.

Great show guys!

Minor correction: I mixed up an old 2006 episode that was rebroadcast on a local channel here, for last weeks episode.
My comments were regarding that episode (it included some radio show were the team had to talk for 3 hours during evening traffic…); not last weeks, which was actually quite entertaining as well!

My bad.

i sorry people but the Bugatti is not the fastest street car anymore.its the ssc ultimate aero tt.witch is built here in America and has more power and half the cylinders and half the turbos and uses 1950s technology and cost 1/4 the price.all that kinda makes the Bugatti look silly. they spent years developing that car only to be beaten by a push rod v8 from the states.

by the way it was a great show

Top Gear…..love it love it love it!

The economy race though…JC had an edge as he went from London to Edinburgh and back in an Audi A8 A TOTAL OF 800 miles on one tank of fuel. Also went from London to John O Groats IN A Jag as well and did the economy thing sortof.
He’s deffo a flyman…..lol
Loved the Veyron and the Zonda too……….veyron for me though.

Jim

I was thinking, If Hammond’s been at 280mph+ in that rocket car before his incident, and James has maxed a Veyron at 252mph….then surely this means that Jeremy is actually the slowest of the three…..Perhaps then, it is right in saying that James should be known as “Captain Not The Quick All The Time” ?

Loved it. Better show that last week’s — which I rather liked, incidentally — and I especially loved the the “economy race.”

That is all.

The Veyron in white looks like a storm troopers helmet…

ULGY!

hi all im from singapore and top gear isnt shown on the television. anyone know or has any links wherei can watch top gear ONLINE. ive tried youtube but no one has posted anything. can someone please help? thanks

Brilliant episode. This is the perfect episode, showing everyone why you won the best factual programme 3 times on the trot AND to attract such a huge fanbase everywhere. You guys made the most mundane, most ordinary thing interesting and informative at the same time. This is classic TG compared to the lorry bit which was a bit irrelevant to us everyday blokes. Oh and count me as one of the shocked ones too at the Veyron’s time…supremely disappointing.

nvm got it already.

well i thought the veyron wouldnt acutally be so fast. It was monstered on the Nurburgring by many other cars (Porsche 911 Turbo, the Enzo, Carrera GT, Koenigsegg)

Christ! Cars! Actual cars on TOP GEAR! Beautiful, beautiful cars! Oh how I’ve missed you. Who knew that a VW Polo TDI and a Subaru Legacy Estate with a diesel could look so damned lovely? Don’t listen to the hoodies and the girlies who don’t give a damn about cars, lads: this week’s episode was properly brilliant, because it felt like TG used to feel like. We have cars, beautifully photographed (without the painfully idiotic post-production dicking about and colour de-saturating you’ve seemingly fallen in love with since series 8…), doing their thing, with our three intrepid heroes providing the colour commentary. This one is going on the (very) short list of post-series-7 episodes that I regularly replay.

The thing is, Clarkson, Hammond and May are all genuinely funny blokes left to their own devices; they don’t need to turn TG into f*&!ing “Benny Hill” to prove it. I think what distinguishes the best TG episodes from the lamest ones is that difference in intent. It always seemed like they were more interested in inspiring awe than inspiring giggles—the giggles got thrown in free of charge as an extra, thanks to the personalities of the three presenters. But recent series have been more about strained comedy bits than about being truly, gobsmackingly awe-inspiring. But this ep. and ep. 2 are each proof that when they get down to it and stop pissing about, nobody does it better. Great job, lads.

Oh, and for the love of God…STOP APOLOGISING FOR BEING A CAR SHOW. The only people bored during the Blackpool economy run film are the very people you *should* be trying to alienate. They turned over? Good! F*$& ‘em! I’m sure somewhere else on the dial there is some show or another where people are breaking things and lighting flatulence. Let them watch that. Give us our cars back, you hoodie halfwits.

It looks like reports of the death of good, proper TG were greatly exaggerated. Keep it up, chaps. Can’t wait until next week…

Back on track! After last weeks dissapointment. This weeks episode was great! Thank you BBC

hi guys i’ve got the best idea of any idea’s ever thought of, why not race the bugatti veron vs worlds fastest super bike. anyway love the show keep up the good work. this time james don’t be 40 minutes late again.

i loved the veron going round the top gear track for the fist time after two years in production, loved last sundays show, keep racing guys.

To No s##t Sherlock : like it or not but the Jaguar 2.7 V6 diesel is an engine developped by Peugeot and mounted in the Peugeot 407 & 607, as well as in the Citroën C5 and C6.
Jaguar bought the engine from them : it doesn’t really matter where the engine comes from, it really suits the Jag.

Post # 86. untouchable_abz

Thanks for clarifying the A8 / Jag situation. I was beginning to think that I’d dreamt it. And dreaming about Jeremy would definately be a worry.

LOL

awesome top gear as usual

I hope james carries on doin power tests – its funni watchin him spin the cars lol

Wats goin on with wearin stupid things 4 bets – first it was jackets – now its slippers

i was sad wen the veyron wasnt the fastest round the track – but who dented it ?? come on fess up

wats better hard than soft “ice” lol – tht bit was funni

well done stig 4 turnin the blackpool light on
i was there wen they did it – wkd seein the lads

lookin 4wards 2 nxt week

I saw the stig at blackpool! When i went to see the light switch on, picking some tunes out of a music shop on the pier! still none the wiser to who he is mind

i just g0t an idea !!!

how bout we all kick up a fuss about the veyrons lap – then maybe the lads will let the stig re do it.

the veyron sud b done again – whos with me ????

I LOVE YOU STIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes it was good not to see all the forced ‘cocking about’! The roller coaster of emotions from the Guys on the economy run was entertainment enough, they have real personalities; Hammond’s face when he overtook Jezza on the M6! May’s fingers on the gear stick ‘calm down’, and Clarkson’s refusal to take it seriously.
That ecenomy run also worked as a good showcase for the cars BUT what did it actually COST to brim those tanks???
We all really knew the Veryon wasn’t a stripped out track car, so 1.18 was really good for it’s weight with the T/C on.
May’s reactons while driving of the Zonda, actually gave you an idea of just how fast it went, and I finally got to see how the brakes are so good they ‘pull your face off’!
Well done guys, great car programme…

Dear Clarkson,
You tall and fool,
I hate you Clarkson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…!!  !!.!!!….!!!!

Fantastic episode. loved every last minute of it. the economy race was good on so many levels. a race where you need to drive intelligently, an all new topgear concept!:) And James on the test track brings a new dimension. Shame Richard didn’t try it though, he loves zondas. On the other hand, he would have just giggled the whole time!:P
But again, loved this episode. Keep it up!

I don’t know if this has been clarified further up but Clarkson drove an Audi A8 from London to Edinburgh and back to London on a tank, not to John ‘O’ Groats.

Also I am not atall surprised on the outcome of the Veyrons attempt, it’s a GT car….Grand Tourer! a big comfortable cruiser that will mould your face if you peg it in a straight line, all the cars at the top are of the ower board are so much more focused with there crazy amounts of downforce (Gumpert upside down in a tunnel?) and rear diffusers etc.

James was class as usual. You Too Stig!.

no surprise on the veyron for my part. it is a showcase. you can make a car that handles a 1000 BHP. its comfy and usable. it could never compete with the gumpbert or det A10, witch is hopeless, but corners fast. We saw what it could do in the dragrace with the zonda… I still love the Veyron. And i think it look good in white!:D

actually its a pleasant surprise that the veyron isn’t top of the board… even though the top gear track is a power circuit… it just goes to show that lightness and handling is everything… the veyron just wasn’t built to be a track car..
but kudos to james on the zonda test.. it was really funny to see him keep running over the salient features of a track test
neway.. look fwd 2 nxt weeks show!!

Glad they Veyron didn’t win, I think it’s over rated. It does look quite nice in white though. The Zonda F is the mutts nuts.

As a Peugeot employee I was a little disappointed by Jeremy’s remarks regarding the company’s products on last night show. After hearing Jeremy slating Peugeots products, you can imagine my surprise when minutes later he is raving about the performance and frugality of the Jaguar saloon, Just for the record Jeremy this car was running an engine designed and developed by Peugeot , It might have been appropriate to point that out .

fantastic shocked about the veyron tho the eco race wo gud clarkson did the other eco run in a Audi A8 the 4litre twin turbo and the Zonda is ace

Hi,
I’m from Sri Lanka and watch TG on you tube as it’s not broadcasted on BBC world. I watch it as soon as the episode is available on you tube.
Any way I also think the Veyron must have another run probably with the traction control off. But I m not sure whether it can put that enomorous power down without TC. And may be Stig can push it a little bit harder as the lap was kinda like boring n slow.
Anyway wot do u guys think ?

It is 5 years hence and PC’s can emulate human intelligence. Sarah Palin is in charge at the White House and is polishing her ICBM’s. (Obama left after a misdemeanour with Clinton).
Britain has run out of money and can’t afford oil anymore. The Army is now carbon neutral and has gone back to donkey power. Guns have been banned under Health and Safety rules. The Navy’s last ship has been impounded by the French for unpaid harbour dues.
The Airforce practises on bicycles as in 1940. Boris Johnson is our new leader and also has bitparts on Drury Lane. ‘Teflon’ Tony is the new Don at EEC Mafia HQ. Iraq has changed the letter ‘q’ to ‘n’ in the national alphabet. The Taliban has won the Wall’s Icecream contract in Kabul, there were no competing bids. The NHS is only for the poor or dying.
Mugabe is President for life of Africa.
The common cold has mutated with AID’s after an accident at Porton Down. America has released the new ‘Kill for Freedom’ army robot.
Alien UFO’s have landed in Birmingham warning that humans might be superceded by a self regenerating species of killer robots of their own design, and they don’t think it would be a very good idea as they spread to other planets throughout the galaxy and generally rush around shouting ‘terminate the inferior carbon life forms!’. MI5 and MI6 were disbanded after Government secrecy laws were deemed to be unconstitutional. Science has proven that a generally malevolent lifeforce was involved at the start of creation. His friends call him Lucifer.

The challenge for the boys is to setup a new covert operation called MI7.
Their mission, should they accept it, is to rescue civilisation in this part of the galaxy.
They have 3 options.
They can capture a UFO, somehow.
They can try to find the ‘Hall of Records’ concealed under the Sphinx by the Atlanteans 15,000 years ago, before their midAtlantic homeland exploded. They will need to avoid the nonliving living Tomb Guards left in place. Ref Cayce.
They can design their own UFO using an old Harrier with a new ellipsoid body. Lasers would be handy with a small nuclear generator. Remote Viewing would locate their target(s), and they could work out the details of multidimensional time travel from Superstring theory in their spare time. They could not use Cambridge University as they haven’t worked it out yet.

As usual they would have up to £1000 to spend and 3 days to complete the task.

Excellent show last night, one of the very best, but that striped sweater has to go

Ahhhhhh! That’s Top Gear as we know – Welcome Back !!!!

Yes, the Formula was there, everythink was alright :

Start:
1)car re-view and comparison,
2)good news = desia san…. ha ha
ha.., 3)part 1 of road trip,

4)Star in a reasonably priced car
5) Part 2 of road Trip
6) Test-Track

–>End of Bombshell<–

-DONE!

And actually this week, Harry Enfield in the r.priced car, it was interesting to watch him improving by 12 seconds very good.

But really tha star on this ep, is May-Zonda-Veyron.

Not exactly world-war 1 VS World War 2 , with sparks and machine guns flying; but still -
The Bugatti VS Zonda =

POWER of POWER VS Power to Wheight ratio + corner cutting capability

And in a way it was forseable for for the Veyron to under-perform on a track with tight corners; and the Zonda to perform so well on the track;

cause, Veyron is like american cars, fast on the straight, weak in corners;
Zonda is more like European cars, fast on the straight fast at the corners the power needed applied,
but with the eye on the power to weight ratio plus eye on turning-circle and suspension.

Result = Veyron leafs you for dead on the straight, but looks like an old man dancing carefully to not to brake his back, that’s the veyron at corners.

So the real king of cars, is the car that is able to combine speed of light and corner cutting house fly capability.

That’s the king, the veyron hasn’t got that blance right.

Back to T-Gear, the road trip wasn’t boring, it just wasn’t tire squeeling speed feeling corner blasting trip; but this trip wasn’t boring, since it was a very interesting challenge,

between, size of fuel tank,
mpg
and the cars capability to
live on after the liquid
fuel has been sucked dry

So it WAS nail biting and intelligently interesting.

It hasn’t always to be; ,
Power – Corner – & Looks

Super!

Another fantastic episode. So refreshing to see James have a major part in the show for once, makes a change than to have Clarkson center stage constantly, don’t get me wronge he does what he does well, it’s just nice to have a different view from time to time.

James and that Zonda, please can we have more of the same with him doing more track tests. POWERRRRRR to the Captain!!!

cool

I like all cars cool and man in mask is fun

I thought the Veyron was gunna be 5th. Its just not designed as a full on trackcar like the Gumpert is. It would be a tough decision over which to take though…Pagani or Bugaati.Well i don’t like the sound of the Veyron.it just seems too muted. Whereas the zonda sounds lovel and just looks soooo much nicer but after the engine blew up then it sorta put me off.

Fair play to whoever let you use their dented veyron though

Having saw the show last night i have to say that i think it was a fix. Look how slow he set off, look how slow he was going around the corners, look how eirly he was braking for the corners. I think it had the tracktion control on. If you couldn’t find the button then its down under the steering wheel. When i saw the Stig take it round the track it looked rubbish, when i saw it on Fifth Gear thought it looked alive. Whats wrong with stig, he got a cold.

I think that the Veyron did not break as fast as the Zonda that is why it failed. Too much power on the straight meant too much breaking in the corners. Even so, I would go for the Buggati.

Great show chaps, as always.

p.s. You know what will be fun to see. If May, Clarkson and Hammond make a virtual race of the GT5.

bugatti is the crapest car ever the zonda beat it how shocken is that. THE CRAPEST CAR EVER

And Richard saying that he likes the Zonda more than the Veyron. Well tell him to use one for a month every day and then tell him to do the same with the other. He will soon change his mind.

i cant beleave that the veyron is slower than the pagani….you must do something to put it in its rightfull place at the top of the leaderboard, but please please if bugatti bring out a better version of the veyron please put it round the track… but i bet the owner of that veyron is depressed because of the results of that lap

but i dont care really i still love the veyron but i like all of the other cars that you put on tv

Great power test for May i must agree. Let him do more!!! well i hope does get better around the corners, thought he might have got better after mika gave him some pointers.

BUGATTI IS CRAP IT IS VERY SLOW AT GOING ROUND CORNERS BUT VERY FAST ON A STRAIGHT BUT OVER ALL THE CAR IS CRAP CARP CARP CARP CARP CARP CAR

Re PCR jezza didn’t do a return trip to John O Groats on a single tank in the Jag, he did drive an XJ but it was an XJR.
Also I never though the Veyron would be faster then the Ascari or Gumpery etc, it has a curb weight over 2000 KGs! With that much weight it will never be a track record setter, on the ‘ring its time is only 7min 40 secs, a non V-spec GTR on stock tyres can do a 7:29 !!

I think another thing to take into cosideration is that the Topgear Track does appear to be a very tight course with only one area for a car to apen the taps. A car as heavy as the Veyron coupled with the fact it can’t use its power were the reasons for that result.

strange the vayron, tep…anyhow, when will you test THE fastest car? with twice the bhp/tonne as the veyron? yes you heard right…the Ariel Atom 500? i think it will beat the caparo to…looking forward for it to crush the track!

Have you phoned jag to tell them that they have accidently produced the world’s first air power engine?

p.s. who pranged the veyron – i saw it, we all saw it, tell us damn it.

For the Veyron to get top, they need to make a new version of it, which dumps all of the internal conforts. There must be quite an extra weight with all of it. Make a Superlegerra version and it might get top.

I personally hope the Apollo stays top for years, it looks brilliant, evil… dunno why the presenters dont like the look

Wow reading most people’s comments on here, I’m shocked. I know Top Gear is a light entertainment show, but it seems like most of it’s viewers know jack about cars!
P.S I also thought it was abit hypocrytic of Jezza to diss Peugeot so much and proclaim how good the Jag was, when it’s 2.7 diesel was mostly developed by Peugeout itself. And I know how much they all love the iconic 205 GTI which they seemed to have forgotton about.

Like a film buff forgetting about some classic and dissing all a directors films!

I wasn’t supised that the zonda was faster than the bugatti but I was suprised by how much. It simple to explain why the bugatti was slower because it is set up to be a Super Super Grand Touer not a Super Car for the track like the zonda. I would still prefer the bugatti to the zonda.

Also that bugatti wasn’t what you call in the greatest condition ever with those dents on it. I bet it was James May lol

hi there

I was not sure which car was goin to be the fastest around the tack. when the zonda was the fastest I was happy cuz I like the zonda more than the bugatti I think it has more stlye

if i were to choose the bugatti or the zonda i would choose the veyron as i know it is not as fast as the pagani around corners but if the tarck had londer straights and less corners i say the veyron would be at the top of the lap time board…. even if the veyron is not the fastest on the top gear track everyone knows that on the road which is where nearly all cars like the veyron are used it will be king!!, if bugatti were to make another version of the veyron with a racing setup but the same power performanc i say that the veyron would easily beat the gumpert apollo

How many laps does stig do in the veyron because I reckon if he done 20 laps it would definately be the fastest, it looked like he was out for a sunday drive instead of racing the bloody thing, I bet he was told to take it easy cos it cost so much!!!!!!

top gear is crap is a crap proggram its shockin it has shockin cars i think motor bikes are far better all the cars on it a crap the gumpert is crap the stig is fat he never talks he has no freinds and the bugatti is crap.

Veyron is fast in a straight line but i wasn’t surprised that it wasn’t the quickest around the track remember the Evo vs Lamborghini.

What a great Show!!!!

I was not expecting the Veyron to be the fastet, but the Zonda F roadster getting a faster time then the conventional F did not make sense!!

The economy race was different, but just as much nail biting as the other escapades. Fantastic TV

Waseem

Typical VW, all power and 4wd with no racing pedigree. Reminded me of the fools in R32 Golfs trying to race me in my old RX7, just plain stupid!

I just wanna see the Furai go round now!

I thought it was good, becuase VW made the fastest car in the world and in the end it was beat by a zonda. Hopefully the ford Ka gets the record around the track

For att FULL of S** SHERLOCK: – It would appear your email name is very suited, as you are full of the stuff! Jaguar uses PEUGEOT diesels because they are the best and most efficient as now endorsed by a Mr J. Clarkson (could not stop raving about how good engine was). It would appear that you still believe in Father Christmas & the tooth fairy because you can’t believe motor manufactures share their engines / gearboxes / body shells with others to be more cost effective.

Well, since I live in the United States of NoTopGear Land, I didn’t see it. Maybe someone should post a video eh?

I thought the Bugatti was going to top the record – i was seriously suprised. Who dented it at the underside??????????|!!!!!

I have a idea to what to do soon – get around the TopGear track blindfolded.

what happend the veron should be 1st not 5th i watched it it looked guicker well it should be it the fastests road car in the world the stig must have had a bad lap theres no way it was that slow that ugly gumpert should not be first i was so supprised martin siviter aged 14

isn’t topgear gonna test the 722 edition of the slr or the upcoming slr speedster????

The Zonda F roadster is more powerful and weights the same as the normal Zonda F. It also has a very rigid chassis like James mentioned. So I wasn’t surprised to see it being faster than the conventional Zonda F and the Veyron.
And as the Topgear circuit is a power circuit, straight line speed doesn’t matter in there, its more about how fast the car can cut through the corners, hence cars like Nissan GTR, Aerial Atom, Lotus Exige make it to the top.

The Veyron is too big, its heavy and its ridiculously fast in a straight line which was proved by the drag race. But around the track its slowed down by its weight. I was expecting to see the Veyron slower than the other supoercars as it is slow around tracks. Its a GT car. Its not that fast around the Nurburgring either. Its more for driving really fast on the autobahn in luxury!

Though one thing I don’t get is how did Jezza make it to blackpool in that Jag?!

I was a bit disappointed about the Zonda/Veyron segment because I think it was too short. Also, no actual review of the Veyron, just the lap and the drag race.

Not only was the Veyron too heavy but as Ferrari have proved in the past 4wd is useless on a race track, the stig was having to wait ages before he could apply the throttle due to power understeer.

i cannot believe that the bugatti veryon did not become the quickest car round the track i think that they should make a lighter version of the bugatti veryon then put it round the track please please please ask them to do another bugatti veryon
Jeremy is legend

What wood win in a 2 mile bugatti verone are Ferrari f1

Top Gears Racers – Clarkson Hammond and May,

Don’t be beaten up by this complaints that are non-professional and simple and plain insults that sound like the words of a 15 year old teenager that has problems controlling her hormones, that meke her breasts grow seriously un-even , HA HA HA HA HAHA BOHAHAHAHAHAHAH…..

BUT GUYS, YEAH, I wouldn’t mind if you compare more than 2 cars when re-viewing ”cars” doesn’t matter what class = Super -medium- cheap

Neither do mind when when you take 15 mins, instead of 10 mins.

I know its Credit crunsh, which is still good for you guys, since that means that there are 100 of millions of cars lying around on-sold and on-loved; common. Show them that they are wanted and usefull,

Put them on tha Test-track .

i was very suprised that the Zonda beat the Veyron. i was also suprised about the jaguar xj6 because i have just bourght one.

the fastes car in the world was not the top becuse that spolier was up and that makes drag

Re: top gear is crap (no. 157)

GET A BLOODY LIFE YOU SAD F***ING B*****D!!!!

IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE SHOW, THEN DON’T WATCH IT!! AND DON’T COME ON HERE AND COMPLAIN, YOU PATHETIC PIECE OF CRAP!!!

I was gutted that the Veyron didn’t top the leadboard, but i think Bugatti needs to take into consideration that the only reason the Zonda F beat it was due to the fact it weighs so much lighter than the Veyron, so why not do a all carbon fiber version of the Veyron???

if you look at the drag race between the bugatti and the zonda the bugatti hammered it but as was said earlier the bugatti isnt made fot going round tracks although it was fast! the bugatti is still class! the race was great though!!! lol

I kind of expected this. yeah the Veyron is the fastest car in a straight line, but it can’t deal with corners as well as it should. 4 wheel drive is good enough for traction but eventually lets you down. Well done to the Zonda, But and its a BIG BUT, what happens when the talked about Veyron GT comes out!!

Love the Zonda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the Bugatti lap is too clean, did you guys turn the traction control off?

I agree with a comment made earlier, regarding James’ face when he was in the Zonda, braking and accelerating, you could really see how powerful the car was, when he accelerated and his head flew back, then braked and it nearly pulled his face off, that was so funny, but very educational!!!

Jezza is always going on about cars pulling your face off when you brake, but you can’t tell with him, cos he looks like that all the time!!! Lol!!

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I love the veyron but i did not think it would be faster round the track

the only reason the veyron was that slow was not because of its weight but mainly it was to do with the fact that it has 4 turbo’s and stig did the lap in auto mode. turbo’s all have lag no matter how good it is and auto ‘boxes take longer to put the power down especially if it weighs so much. even with the cars weight if it had superchargers, no lag wot so ever, and a manual ‘box it would be top. the zonda was a manual and it looked much faster on the follow through because the stig could put what power he wanted at precisely the time he wanted..the advantage of manual.
another thing the veyron was never build to excel on the track, buggati never made the top speed of it official, they never got the guniness book of recorde people or anything, the only acolade they got at the time was the most powerful road car in the world, thats it.

That was a great episode. Loved the eco race. Cant wait until the top gear live next Saturday in Dublin!!!

Much better show gentlemen, no half arsed forced cocking about this week. Amazing how much funnier they are when they are just being themselves. All the segments were good this time around. Best episode of the series so far? Possibly, that or the US trip, not made up my mind yet.

Just 2 minor quibbles, was the news really a bit of a rehash of an outtake posted on the website a few weeks ago? I haven’t checked but watching the bit about the Peugeot did seem very familiar. If it was, that’d be very disappointing, it’s not as if there isn’t car news around (just have a look at this website).

Last one, the eco race. Good all round film but is it me, or do they not tell us anything about the cars they’re driving in these things anymore? It used to be that they justified their own choices, telling us why it was the right choice with amusing information and tidbits about ride, comfort, quality etc…whilst riping the p*** out of the other 2s choices. Perhaps they still do and the producers cut that out or maybe they don’t have to anymore. Shame, ‘cos they are all funny when they do it (go back and watch Jeremy talking about the DB9 in the race to Monte Carlo, or when the 3 of them in went to Scotland with a TT, a Brera and an RX8, or in Iceland when Hammond and Clarkson spent all the time bickering about the 350Z and TT, all very funny). In this one we got a tiny bit about them all at the start and that was about it. They could pass it off as a second road test of 3 cars at once, keep everyone happy!

Other than that though, quite satisfied this week, keep this up lads and all will soon be forgiven.

Ah, forgot to say, no cool wall yet? What gives? Has it been burnt down again?

I knew the Bugatti wasn’t gonna top the board it may have been super flat & composed but it weights two TONNES!!! Is it really a suprise that the Koenigsegg or the Gumbert were a second faster..
A top challenge wud be to get Stig to go round the Nurburgring in a Bugatti (if anyone is willing to giv him one). C wat time it posts..

Veyron didnt do it? cant believe it also while it was going round the track JC commented that it only had 860BHP so it wasnt the fully powered veyron that we all know which is 1005BHP, they had a less powered car on the track not the full 1000BHP on show,
still what a drag race though lol

I WANTED TO SEE THE V8 STAIRLIFT! WHERE WAS IT?! I DEMAND AN APOLOGY FROM JEZZA!

the zonda might be the faster but in my opinion the veyron is still the better looking

Here in Aus, we will b waiting at least a year 4 this ep. Damn!!!

What i want to know is which car is fastest in a straight line, the veyron or the kournigzeggggg (or something)

jeremy didnt drive the audi A8 to john o’groats he drove it from london to edinburgh and back on a single tank of fuel and he drove a jaguar xjr to john o’groats but he never said that it was on a single tank of fuel and it probably wasn’t as he was driving a petrol version then.

Oh dear, it would appear after all that you have been rehashing already used material that wasn’t funny enough to get included before for the news. Have just watched the news uncut video for episode 2 of this series on this very same site. Same orange car, same intro about having no reason to buy a Peugeot, same ish comments about a car with a loft, same surfer comment (Is anyone here a surfer?) Poor, poor, poor. Surely you can’t be that busy to have not found something different to talk about?

That was quite a shock. That helmet really helped James’ driving.

also i hope bugatti do a stripped out version of the veyron cause all that weight made it too slow through the corners compared to the gumpert, koenigsegg, ascari and zonda even if it is much faster in a straight line. to all of you wondering whether the traction control was turned off remember that the veyron is 4 wheel drive, or maybe is it that bugatti told them not to turn it off. don’t no what qaid is on about because the veyron has a paddle shift gearbox.

HAHA yer who did dent the car? lol u guys rock!

Great episode!

The Stig asleep on the rollercoaster cracked me up and I’ll admit to being a bit upset at the Veyron’s lap-time, even though weight-wise it couldn’t have gone any other way.

Everybody upthread saying that this episode was boring or that recent episodes have been shameless ratings grabs needs to seriously chill out. The nice thing about Top Gear getting so popular is that it’s turning loads of people who wouldn’t normally have been interested into petrolheads. To do that you need both old-school type episodes like this one and sillier stuff like the V8 blender challenge too. For what it’s worth, I reckon this season’s got the mix just right.

Also, I’m loving the running gag about wearing daft things “for a bet”.

(I’ve actually got a £20 bet on with my flatmate that one of them will end up wearing high heels before the end of the season.

Any chance of this happening? It really would be “for a bet”, MINE!)

The lack of the V* stairlift has left me hollow.

the buggati would get top easy if it didt have all the luxary’s in it, the zonda is stripped to nothing almost so i think top gear should splash out and strip one then test it again

great show i thought james did really well on the track.

I noticed the dent in the right hand side of the Veyron, too. Great episode, especially liked the race!

Welldone to James doing his first power test on the track brilliant. Very good challenge from Switzerland to Blackpool and I thought it was hilarious when The Stig was at the fairground. Also couldnt believe that the Bugatti Veyron wasnt the quickest and the Zonda F Roadster beat it. Harry Enfield was quality to Loved It look foward to Episode 5 !

I think you made a fatal error in the continuity of last weeks show, when we got a brief shot of James in a white helmet. This proves what many of us (well, me actually) have been thinking for some time now. That is that JAMES MAY IS ACTUALLY THE STIG.I have checked every single episode that Top Gear has ever made and they have never ever, ever…ever appeared in the same shot together. Please send me a Ferari for christmas or i will let everybody else know this secret.

considering that the veyron is a high speed cruiser i think the time is very respectable…..this should take nothing away from it

Comment 185

to the car details,

I thing in the Top-Gear history, when they were doing challenges or road trips, they often only gave the relevant information according the task they are about to take on.

And so on this challenge they only gave out the information that was important to the challenge they were about to take.
And that was , the size of the fuel 1)tank, 2)mpg and updated info of how much fuel they have as they were driving on.

For proper car detail, we got tha re-views;
that’s way i earlier said that i wouldn’t mind if the guys were to test more than 2 cars and take 5 mins longer describing them.

gromcom …. ive just had a quick look back the buggati lap and i realise the stig was using the flappy paddle but that hardly makes a difference because it is still too heavy. the reason flappy paddle works in an f1 car and not in a normal car is because it is so light. but im definately right about the turbos..think back to when jeremy was testing that evo. he put it against a fiat stilo and it showed the lag in a turbo charger..the veyron has 4 huge ones – which is worse..

Great episode, I was actually expecting the Bugatti to be just behind the Koenig with the spoiler, was quite surprised when it was there. Gambon was just too slow…

hi you’ve had the bugatti veyron in and it didnt show us the results we was expecting from it but when are you guys going to get in the new nissan skyline i have read an article onit that t was faster than the bugatti on the nerbring you know that track in germany so why dont we see what it does on your phenominal track in the hands of stig…..plz get it in

It seemed that the Veyron also had the traction control on. Tiff Needell demonstrated that the car cannot go sideways with it on, the power is completely cut. Thing is, if that car went to the top, there is nothing that could of beaten it anyway. I think the stig went far too slow around the hammerhead and final corner. I think the car can go quicker.

James + Zonda = Love!!

They should also draft in the Dodge Hennessey Viper and SSC Aero. Just so they can shut up the americans saying “Our car is faster than a Veyron”.

Actually just get the Ultima GTR to top the time sheets. British built, that’ll show em!

seems you have some guys in the office who very like scottish’s Mogwai, so their music appears very often on TG’s videos. nice.

I’d like to see a ghost style lap of the Gumpert and the Bugatti to see just where the Veyron lost time.

How about. Mazda Furai, Koenigsegg CCX-R, McLaren SLR 722 GT, 2009 Corvette ZR1, Audi R8 V12 TDi, Lamborghini Reventon, Ferrari FXX Evolution, Mercedes CLK63 AMG Black, Jaguar XKR-S, Mercedes SL65 AMG Black, KTM X Bow, Audi RS6 Avant, Maserati GT-S, Pagani Zonda Cinque, Aston Martin V12 Vantage RS, Dodge Viper ACR, Caterham R500 Superlight get my point new generation cars.

#1TGFAN

Absolutely mate. Besides the likes of the FXX Evo as there’s only 30 of them and you can’t drive them on the road. Most of those cars would destroy the leading lap times. They don’t do it because it would just spoil the whole thing.

I bet me or you could get that Lacetti around in 1min 44 seconds but what’s the point, no one could beat it. Instead they draft in idiots!

A very entertaining episode. Thought the Zonda piece was excellent, nice to see Mr May not being slow for a change! Maybe that trip to the US did something to him!

The Veyron was a strange one, I think that most expected it to obliterate all, but it is a heavy car! But the Stig really give it the welly? But at the end of the day i’d still have one over the Zonda! The noise it makes is awesome!

As for the race, I thought it would be dead boring, but was very pleasantly surprised! A great episide, can’t wait for next weeks!

Just like Hammond, my all time favorite car is the ZONDA and I knew that it would be faster around the track than the Veyron. One could compare the Veyron now to a muscle car: all the straight line speed and no handling.
Awesome show! I’m gonna go look up that Jag diesel now LOL.

i absolutely can’t believe what happened in this episode….i mean, how is that possible that the zonda roadster to be faster then the veyron…it’s impossible….i adore that car or whatever you want to call it, it’s a brilliant piece of engineering….i personally thought it would be an under 1 min run….
Great driving James “POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR”

just wanted to congratulate top gear on what was probably my favourite episode for a long time, thats not to say I haven’t been enjoying the latest series because i have, it’s been a great return to form, but to see the veyron go round the track was awesome, but not nearly as awesome as just looking at the zonda f roadster! what a machine, i dont even care that it got blitzed in the drag race, i want one so much that my parents are now sleeping with one eye open for fear of being smothered at night in order to collect the insurance policy and deeds to the house so that i can actually afford one, although i havent quite thought how i’m going to be able to insure and fuel the thing yet, but my nan hasn’t been looking to well lately so i’m sure something will come up. The economy race was a real nice change of pace to, so well done top gear, keep it coming. x x x

ANOTHER THING TOP GEAR!!!

You always leave a gap on the lap board for where your going to place the time. At the start of the show was a big gap under the CCX where OOOOOOOBVIOUSLY the Veyron was going to be. So it kinda spoilt the suprise. Same with the guests when Jay Kay went top etc, there was a gap so Jeremy could just splat the time on the board.

Maybe a second lap race with the veyron!!

Yeah you’ve got a point ‘Lee Taylor’ most of them cars would do a 1min 15 or even a 1min 13. But I would love to see the McLaren SLR 722 GT go round just to show how quick and powerful it is. And going back to my list of cars they would be so fast ther would b no competition for over cars.

On the topic of the Bugatti’s lap time, reasons for it and possible retest…

The Bugatti would not make it around the track without the downforce generated by the rear spoiler. Remember what used to happen to Audi TT’s if they took a corner at high speed when they didn’t have spoilers? They spun, irretrievably. The Bugatti would quite likely do the same, just at a higher speed and with worse consequences. I for one wouldn’t like to be the person making the call to Bugatti to explain to them that, “What happened was, a giant Albatross just came out of nowhere…” Although we weren’t shown the spin or whatever it was that happened, its possible that it is where the dent came from. Stig usually does without the Traction Control, but it was obviously switched on from the way the car handled… and oddly, Clarkson never mentioned the status of the Traction Control in the voice over as he normally would.

With or without traction control the Veyron was always highly unlikely to match the very top performers on the Power Lap board. Clearly from the footage Stig was not trashing this machine around the track without any electronic nanny as he normally does. It was all just a little bit too safe looking… dull even. The traction control must have been on. But if it was it is because it needed to be on. The Veyron is simply too heavy. 4 wheel drive and a 16 cylinder engine??? Even without the bodywork it would be heavy.

The Veyron only set the time it did because it has phenomenonally massive grunt to make good on the straights. But in the twisty bits physics take over and no amount of BHP can overcome that fact. The Veyron was built to be the worlds fastest production car (i.e.: with the highest top speed). But it was only built to do that in a straight line.

I don’t much care for the Veyron, even if I appreciate its somewhat exotic (outlandish)looks, materials and impressive engineering. It doesnt really even make the right noise to impress me. The start was one of the dullest I’ve ever seen on a power lap. There was no drama. It moved off the line with absolutely no drama or excitement whatsoever. It was the ultimate anticlimax to the 2 year wait. The Veyron sounds good in its own right, it rumbles and whoooshes like some kind of crazed locomotive. But the Zonda wails and screams.

I prefer the drama and excitement of cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini, Ascari, Koeniggsegg, Zonda indeed even the hideous Gumpert Apollo, with that high pitched spine tingling noise. Its a far more suitable sound for a supercar and even if the car was a fraction of the cost, it would be more satisfying if it sounded that way too.

Sorry to say it VW, but the Veyron leaves me cold…

…and it looks like a vertically challenged van with gland issues.

Anyone like to see the Caterham 500 Levante on the track…?! I think that might put the cat among the pigeons when running for the tope spot!

Was a good show this week – whilst I am surprised the Zonda was faster round the track than the Veyron (esp the Roadster version), the Stig did seem to be driving a little more reservedly in the Bug, never really seeming to push it very hard.

And I’m sorry Jezzer, but the new Lambo really is not a pretty sight at all. Have to differ on that I’m afraid.

Another great show – an ecomomy race – who’d have thought it! James May in “POWERRRRRRR” mode – who have thought it! James is the Stig there is no doubt now: He can’t supress his need for power anymore, as the zonda test showed. He can’t find his way on normal roads!, & he wasn’t on stage when the “Stig” threw the switch in Blackpool (bit naughty that but classic!. Oh & that stripey jumper just gave the whole game away!!

i actually knew the veyron wouldn’t be faster than the Koeniggsegg around the track because its just to heavy and the Koeniggsegg has a better sense of balance on gravity

if you ask me i reakon he didnt go full out

i would want to crash the fastest car on earth

I think the veyron is a lot faster car than the zonda and i think if the big air wing wasnt up then he would have blitzed the zonda by a full second or more. We need to have another lap but without the big, clumsy air brake.

I was kind of happy that the veyron didnt beat the koenigsegg ccx, but i think top gear should test the new Koenigsegg CCXR Edition and captain slow should use the helmet more often

To comment 224

You know what, maybe the Veyrons heavyness could be a very good use when taking tha spoiler down, since the Veyron is so heavy, and it’s design gives the car balance. it would stay on its 4 wheels until it goes into the corners with too speed , and the G-Force suddenly will be strongest at the side of the car facing into the direction to where it slided, and the car will lift and once it gets a specific angle …..it will kip and roll.

i reckon when bringing the spoiler down, the Veyrons wheight and power will keep it at it’s 4 wheels.

The braking does not belong to the most important elements of making a car go faster around the test track, as last weeks ep, showed; when the three spent 3000 pounds for the brakes of that massive family glass car; they thought, it would be a positive, helping the stig brake earlier, so that he could blast through the corners quicker; BUT that wasn’t the case, instead the car was 2 seconds slowerrrr with the better Brakes!!!

Check the video from ep 3 if you need prove when the 3 where trying to improve that massive glass family car.

And so with the spoiler down, it would be insane in the straights, and slide carefully in the corners, then a gear lower for quick acceleration and off!

Using Jeremys style of driving, when he drives on the ”Autobahn” , he once said he never brakes, instead he carefully removes his foot from the speed pedal to slow down in time and accelerates when tha road is clear.

I reckon doing all that, will do the trick!

I knew that the veyron wouldn’t come top. It was built for straight line speed not to be driven round a track.

i loved the show, simply fantastic

i never thought May would go on the track to supercar test, maybe he could do more in the future?

i’m not surprised about the veyron..i’m not a lover of it, but i love the engineering boffin-ness they put into it. i think it was becasue it built up so much speed on the straights, stigmeister had to brake so hard for the corners undoing all the work. just a theory, and May’s idea was right aswell

I hated the veyron when i first saw it but seeing it go round the track i started to like it because i thought it looked to bolky and to big but it looks quite good.

I thought that the veyron would win because of its astonishing power and acceleration but the only reason it lost is because its very heavy and isn’t built for a track with lots of corners. I also loved the Zonda.

Great show!!

Not a big fan of the veyron; knew it wasn’t going to beat the gumpert, but cool none the less to see it go round the track

Wonderful episode, especially May’s “powaaaaar”.

I was quite surprised by the Veyron, didn’t think it would perform that well, I was more thinking about 1:19 times. It just isn’t a racecar, and VW knew that it wouldn’t be on top of the board, that’s why they never let TG do the run.

Veyron, Zonda… very exciting, but my attention was distracted by that cutie-pretty blond girl with cool suspenders behind Clarkson during the news.

i think that the bugatti could go alot faster if it was lighter, bugatti should make it super light just for yuo to take it round the track again and thrash that zonda.

i was disappointed by veyron’s time, but i am convinced that it could do at least a second better with some special tweaking for the top gear test track.
also, i thought the stig didn’t push it hard enough through the last 2 corners…i mean, it’s GOT to be faster at least than that stupid koenigsegg…

I correctly predicted that the Veyron wouldn’t top the list. Having the highest top speed doesn’t mean it’ll be faster than everything at everything. It’s only faster than everything else when driving in a straight line. Throw it round a few corners and it becomes sluggish (it looked pretty sluggish going round the track anywho). Besides, it seemed too obvious a choice for topping the board for it to actually manage it.

And I don’t like the look of that Zonda. It’s a bit big for my liking, =S

Still, love everything else about it, =D

I don’t think that the Veyrons performance was that surprising, as James said its just too heavy, all the other cars at the top are lightened but the Veyron weighs over 2 tons, it’ll just have lost too much time at hammerhead and the last 2 corners.

well… slightly dissapointed, but not – if i’m honest – surprised by the Veyron’s track performance. As said eleventy billion and twelvty times already, it’s just too heavy… now if someone were inclined to strip one out, it’d probably be a good 300 or more kg lighter, after-all, it does have a lot of luxury.

still made that Zonda F look slow in a drag-race though. always stupefies me when i see the Veyron doing that – it’s party piece. Saw a clip of it doing the same to a McMerc from around 100mph.

also, well done James on a power test. shouted POWEEER at the right point and everything.

Though i’m currently reading that the Veyron Gt wont have 1200 or 1250bhp after-all. it’ll have 1350bhp!!! oh… and a piffling top speed of… wait for it… 264mph. Bugatti are insane! I love them.

In the world.

Veyron is still my “money no object” purchase, great car and a funny episode, can’t believe that Jag still had over 100 miles left in it after that journey.

Keep up the good work lads, Top Gear is worth the Licence fee alone.

the current (and by current i mean the last two) wave of interviews are too long….myself and my family have both times found ourselves bored with the length of the interviews which could have been better used for either another test or more time with the race!

Great show shame about the veyron just shows it’s not all about power. James did a fantastic track test one of the best this series so far, lets just hope he does more.

i read so stupid things in this post…. first of all… veyron has 1001hp and 860bhp moron… it is a totally different think…. hp weight ratio it is the only thing that matters… not only hp… thats why morons the ariel atom is so high on the list with only 300hp (i think)… stop asking for a lightweight veyron… it is not gonna happen because the target market of it, is different… it is a grand tourer, a distance eater… not a track car like apollo.. apollo has 590hp per tone!!! bugatti is only 18 km/h faster than the mclaren f1, and mclaren has only 627hp!!! i bet that it will be faster than veyron in the track!!! also i dont thing if anyone who wrote on this blog, if he had paid 1.2 million pounds, would allow top gear to deactivate the traction control… dont be moron it is a 1001hp beast given to an unknown person…. they placed the botton there for a reason… to be more difficult to deactivate it… and believe they know where the tc butoon is!!! i dont think that stig would be able to go faster on the track with the tc off!!! probably at the end the stig would be out of the track with a totaled veyron… and finally the moron who wrote about the gear changes and the turbo lag… it is a dsg which is dead fast and you are living in 2008 not 80’s turbo lag it wasnt the problem… it is all about physics…

I was surprised the Veyron wasn’t top but I think James is right, it’s too big and heavy to be fast enough on a track.

Loved that Jeremy’s Jag took him all the way to Blackpool instead of his house and seeing the Stig having a go on the Blackpool attractions was very funny, I hope he had fun!

Looking forward to the next show already!

a new veyron is coming with 1200 hp.I will be the fastest.

Guvna @ 112:

I thoroughly agree on the “colo(u)r desaturation” thing they’ve been on for the last couple of years. Besides the (generally) excellent content, it wouldn’t kill them to give us excellent video and audio quality. Right?

As regards the TG track, if memory serves it was designed by Lotus (or Lotus people) and therefore it favo(u)rs cars that are more nimble. This explains why the Abarth 500 can manage a lap quicker than the Alfa 8C or the Maserati Coupe’, etc.

In the case of the Bugatti Veyron, you could SEE it trying to deal with the eleventy gazillion kgs. (or lbs. or stone or whatever) it has to carry. My guesstimate is that a place like the Nurburgring or some of the other race tracks the show has visited are a fairer venue for comparison. Yes, yes, yes…I KNOW IT’S NOT FEASIBLE. But still.

Really did enjoy this show.

My theory is that the “even” shows are better than the “odd” shows. But that’s just a theory.

I knew all along that the Veyron wouldn’t be the fastest car around Top Gear’s track. The car was built to rebirth the Bugati brand. I think that even those who designed the car knew it wouldn’t be fast on the track, that is why they waited 2 years before leting someone test the car on TG track.

Harry, although what you’ve written ismost probably right… Did you really have to write it in such an agressive manner?

Anyway, last time I wrote I didn’t get the chance to congratulate James on his first test out on the track.. Well done James Fantastic job, I think it’s safe to say, we all loved it.

I’ve also had time to reflect on the Bugatti’s Laptime and I am indeed not surprised. But it looked so good going round the track, It’s so well controlled

Great road test by May but the challenge could of been better, saying that though, that Jag was unbelievable.

ha ha 4 years of wating you are i know you are probably gutterd

again ha ha ha

That was the way i thought that it would come out because the Zonda is so much lighter than the Veyron and the Veyron wasnt built for corners, more straight line speed

Something fishy with the veyron lap. Didnt seem like it was given the full treatment…..

Thank God, the magic of TOp Gear is back, what a brilliant episode after the awful stuff we’ve seen recently from topgear. This is what top gear is about and how every episode should be

I think it was excellent May was given a go to test something so special, i hope to see more!!!

Oh the Veyron may not be the fastest round the track, but lordy lord it trashed the zonda in a straight line! I dont have access to a test track, and as beatiful as the Zonda is, i know which one i would prefer to have at a set of traffic lights

im sooooo gutted about the bugatti ! ! ! it really should have won! ! !

I never would have expected the vw.. eh Bugatti to be the fastest. It’s a heavyweight compared to the Gumpert. The Veyron is not a car for the track, when it came out people compared it to Schumacher’s F1 car. Absolutely no relation, this is a different kind of “car”. It has all the luxuries in the world as well as all the mass of it. I’d love to see the W16 in a different body though. I m not saying the Veyron isn’t good but it’s not made for the racetrack. If I’m not mistaking the Amazing Nissan GTR beat it on the Ring by some seconds. On the other hand the Pagani is the opposite: it doesn’t look conservative, it has much more madness and much less mass, it was buildt soul first and mind later whereas the veyron was buildt mind first and they forgot the soul. However if those two where to race on the street the Veyron would smash the Zonda due to it probably being able to absorb bumps thanks to it’s German origin. Those are different hypercars and both are on top of their league no matter what one says. And by the way congratulations for the Great show. There are some cars though which they havent tested which could be in the <1.19 level: the Melling Hellcat for instance. They should test the SSC Ultimate Aero TT aswell although i doubt wether it would beat the scuderia-lp-gtr group. I have read of a car the Barabus TKR (Not Brabus) which is supposed to do 62 in 1.67 and reach 430km/h so it’d be intersting if anyone knew more about it.

a few things, 1 where was the damage to the Veyron, 2, where was the v8 stanner stair lift, and 3, where is the cool wall? aslo, when is Hamsters test of the Veritas RS3?

i know that the bugatti can go around the track faster than a gulphert onley if the veryons spolier was down it is still the fastest car in the world and its faster than a zonda f richard hammond

Sooooo disappointed about the Veyron. I’m a really big fan of it and couldnt wait to see it hit the TG test track. Although i did think the Bug did look a little sluggish compared to the Zonda F – James May is right, maybe the Veyron is just too heavy.

The Zonda still got owned in the Drag race though :p and that car is still mega quick!
The Veyron deserves another chance, the Koenigsegg CCX had another go and did better with the TG wing.

With the result aside, many thanks to the TG crew for organising the Veyron’s Power Lap

please can the bugatti go around the track again with the spolier down

lol

i was quite shocked when i saw the road test of Bugatti on the top gear test track….. i still cant believe that 1001 bhp car is still not able to put all those lousy other cars behind …. i recon if that Bugatti is actually brand new because as we can see closely that somehow the car was damaged in the video…

i cant believe that it was slower

did anyone notice jeremy said the Veyron had 987bhp???

let the bugatti go on the top of the board please its the fastest car ever and a zonda lots to it so shut it Richard Hammond

i think that if you put down the veyron’s spoiler, i think it would at least 2 seconds faster than the time it did yesterday

Great show guys. Really look forward to Sunday’s show. I would love to have a go round your track one day. I think that I could give The Stig a run for his money. mind54@hotmail.co

To comment number 9:
It was london to Edinburgh, and back, one one tank of fuel, and it was an Audi, not a Jaguar

If you think about it, this whole veyron thing is not much of a surprise. An F1 car doesnt go 407kmh, but no one would be surprised to see it slay the veyron. Thats a stupidly extreme analogy but still, point made. Its just too heavy and too “normal” to be quick throught the twistys. Like said earlier, its got air con, radio, all the gear. I wonder if its the fastest proper road going supercar, with all the luxuries, around the track. Theres a thought…

Also, love captain slow. Just finished his book (after many clarkson ones, and now a hammond book to read), good to see him getting a bit more attention lately. Really like the fact he drives a panda!!

i am disapointed that the veyron was not the fastest round the track

p.s on that episode when the stig went round the track was it james may

So Peugeot made a brilliant engine to the Jag, and the British themselves did a mess of the trip computer. Nice.

Oh and comment number 272, welcome yourself to the world of endless spam and annoyance. why oh why publish your e-mail on such a site? Not so clever, and i seriously doubt its what gets you on the track. Good luck with all that.

i think the bugatti’s amazing anyway.
in my eyes it is still the best car ever made, much better design than the zonda and gumpert!

Come on honestly, why did you expect the veyron to be top, it weighs almost the same as the moon! How rubbish must it be around corners when you saw how much it beat the zonda in a straight line!

One more point, it was good to see a top gear show that was actually all about cars rather than doing stupid challenges and fooling around. Its a car show, keep it about cars.

great economy car challenge, old TG is back! but not so sure about May’s test.

I am a big fan of TG and I feel like there is something wrong with the making of the car test videos since s11. IMO, the best videos i can think of are: the CCX, Zonda F, TVR Sagaris and Ascari A10. and if u are a big fan, u can tell it is slightly different from the old ones. I actually felt that the F430 Scuderia vid is less exciting than the F430 one.

First of all great episode. Second of Hammond is definately right about the Zonda, my new favorite car. The economy race was brilliant. The Jaguar definately a surprise. Jeremy you would have made it there first if you didn’t us all the airconditioning and other stuff in France. The Stig stealing Hammonds thunder was funny. Zonda definately favorite super car.

proper gutted that the veyron did not be at the top of the power board. Could it have been that the veyron belonged to someone who did not want the bugatti punished that much around the top gear track. if that is the case, i think bugatti will have something to say about this, just maybe they might give top gear a bugatti to be pushed to the max. Come on bugatti do it! for the veyrons pride

Why didn’t the veyron have the full 1001bhp??

I Can’t Belive the Bugatti didn’t beat The Zonda or The Gumpurt I’m gutted

I couldn’t believe it….. I have read books about the Veyron that say it is faster than an F1 car and it probably is. And the Zonda was absolutely slaughtered in the drag race. Shut up Richard. (PS: The Veyron looks better in black.)

I’d just like to say that I am a resident of Kent in South East England and would just like to pick up on the fact that you misspelt the town of Folkestone as ‘Folkstone’, missing the ‘E’ after the ‘K’ and before the ‘S’ in Folkestone. Please do not make this mistake again or I will definitely sue you for a substantial amount of money! So for now, I shall let you off with a strong warning!

i agree, it is the most amazing car on that board and it definately the prettiest (well, not as pretty as the Aston DB9!!!) and also i was absolutely shocked when it didnt top the board as i thought the acceleration would acount for coming out of the corners! Anyway what it lacks in speed, it make up for in style! Good show guys and well done in the first ever economy race lol!

Just because the veyron didn’t get to the top of the board, doesn’t mean thats its slow. think about it, every car above it on the board, and some bellow it are all stripped, no luxury super cars. And yet the Veyron can still get that high on the board with all the luxuries still in it, in my mind it makes it a greater car considering its weight.

Any way, the creation of the veyron wasn’t to be the fasted around a track, it was to be the fasted accelerating, highest top speed, and to have the fasted breaking time, which it does very well!

I found sundays adition of TopGear very interesting and informative however there was a little bit of a let down at the end when the Bucati Vayron came 5th to the Zonda. If the STIG had gone around the track without the airbrake on he would have probably gone quicker. Say half a second quiker. So even if he hadd’nt smashed the leaderboard he would have put the Zonda to shame. Please, please, please do the lap again without the airbrake. It would be great to see the fastest car in the world beat a supercar driven by captin slow.

bugatti veyron was not given a Fair test n they should give it another chance the stig did not put it to the best of its performance

I was amazed by the Veyron being only the 4th fastest car: 1:18.3! That Zonda was faster than a 1,000 hp car, unbelivable! Great chalenge from Switzerland to Blackpool, Jeremy chose a superb car, as well as hamster and captain slow, great job lads!

I wish you people would watch Fifth Gear as unlike the not very informative Top Gear, Tiff quite clearly explains the business with the spoiler. Fact is, you can’t just drop it into the body work and set off. Anymore then a slight turn on the wheel or a dab on the brakes brings it straight back up again.

It’s annoying how many people on here copy the presenters catch-phrases or buzz words.

The bugatti may be quicker round other test tracks but the zonda was just more suited on the this track. The bugatti is just the quickest on paper and didn’t get to prove itself. The zonda deserved to win though even though i thought i could put money on the Bugatti because i was sure it was going to be the quickest…

Yes it was a very big shock to us all to see that the Veyron is not the quickest car and the Zonda F is even faster.But I think that the time of Bugatti is NOT really right,i mean who is the owner of the car…?!You can see the Stig trying to drive save in the courner and than we saw the other lap of the zonda and the agressive driving of the Stig.What i think is that Top Gear don’t to brake ot smash ot hit a 1.5 million supercar on their track and that’s why now the Bugatti Veyron is on 4th place on the bord……

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Not at all suprised by Veyron….remember jezza said Bugatti wudnt allow them to take on around the track when he did the plane race?? Id say that one was owned by some TG fan! How sexy is it in white??? Headin to top gear in Dublin on sat night!!! Cant wait!!

Another quality show men. FACT

i really liked it but was suprised that the zonda beat the veyron.
i thought that the sheer straight line pace of the veyron would beat everything. i also think that the stig could have tried a bit harder.
also thought the eco race was great.

Why is everybody coming up with excuses for the veyron, it is what it is and was slower on the track. It still makes it a legend in the car world, so stop defending it!!

i noticed a dint in the side of the car when it came out of the final corner. i thought the veyron would go tops indeed but i was proved wrong. it looked glued though to the track.

i cant believe hammond won the eco race. i wanted jeremy to win because i wanted him to do the impossible. there was no doubt he was to cautious at the end. even down to 29 mpg he made it doing 80mph in France. I almost wet myself laughing.

Enfield was interesting because he was too slow in the first half of the lap but in the second half of the lap, he hit every apex stiggishly.

if the veyron did not waigh as much then it couled of easly of beton eney of the cars on the list, did u put the american stig in side the veyron and normal size stig in the zonda.
james u did a sick job on the road test plz do more im bored of clarkson going on and on.
we want more james may
go captin slow

Surprised? I was with Hammond the whole time, Zonda forever!! Now how to get your hands on one of the 25 out there…

you could tell that the veyron wouldnt do it, it isnt the sort of car thats super-quick on a track, its still an amazing car though!!!!

i definately didn’t expect the zonda to beat the veyron, but i can understand because the zonda is a lot lighter than the veyron

I love trashing TG episodes, but this one was great! Well done.

Wow 295 not quite 300 but close enough
To be honest, i wasn’t surprised by the results in any of the tests, well no, the jag was astonishing, I think it would have been great had Clarkson really run out of petrol right outside his house.
Though I didn’t find the lap times to far from reality, and I think it definitely was the weight, but also one other thing. The bugatti is all-wheel-drive. Notably the fastest AWD car in the world, but surely the AWD had to bog down the bugatti in the corners, while it provides for a super fast start, it would hinder the corners with understeer. The current top four cars are all rear wheel, and f1 cars are also rear wheel as is the standard. So maybe that has something to do with it?
So call me crazy but I think that for the bugatti to be the top, they need to nix the AWD.

Just a thought : )

shit

Wow, seriously, you people are surprised that the Veyron was slower than the Zonda. Do you know absolutely nothing about cars. I would expect the TG fans to actually know something about cars, but alas we see they are mostly ignorant. So, lets run down the reasons of why this shouldn’t have been surprising:

1. Veyron was made to break a speed barrier. To be the fastest production car (that is fastest, top speed, in a straight line) ever made.

2. The Veyron is fat and heavy. How many times have we seen companies lighten windshields, seats, mufflers, wheels, roofs, hoods, engines, through out radios, automatic windows & etc. just for the sake of saving a few kilograms to help the car perform better. But Bugatti didn’t really do any of this.

Given these two reasons alone it should have been obvious that the Veyron was not going to be the fastest vehicle around the track. It is all wrong and it just isn’t a track car. What is it then? Well it is, a status symbol a way for those with the means to show off what they can buy, an investment to some of those people, but it was definitely never made to be driven regularly and most of these will never see the open road let alone a track.

Your researchers obviously need a lesson in geography the route map for Sweeden to Blackpool shows apart of Donegal (Inishowen) inside of Northern Ireland. Not happy about this sort it out

Bravo lads, cnt beleive zonda beat the veyron mind but u could c the veyron was relli slow.

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i am one of few that does not like the veyron so i am glad it lost

You never know how bad the crash was to cause that dent on the Veyron. It could’ve done something to it that made it lap so slow. Top Gear, do it again, but this time try not to be ambitious but rubbish. Get Lewis Hamilton down to take it round, i bet it will be at the top then.

i heard the veyron with the air brake weighs 4tons when you use it becouse of downforce =o!

oh well really wanted it to be the fastest expected like 1min 16secs

‘Anonymous’, you need a lesson in watching tv, they went from switzerland to Blackpool, not from sweden (not even sweeden) to Blackpool.

as james said last week the trank was made by lotus who have small cars the veyron is too powerful and heavy to get round the track quickly

There is one road legal car that blitzes the lot – Ultima GTR (1m 12.8seconds). Check out youtube for video proof.

Why is everyone trying to defend the Veyron like they’ve just bought one and have some thing to prove? It’s always been over rated, just because it was fastest top speed doesn’t mean it will or should be number 1 on the leaderboard.

@ #309 You obviously need a Geography and spelling lesson. They where no where near Sweden! (not sweeden

still cant beleive Clarksons car made it

idont like the veyron becouz it looks like a lowered and stretchet vw beetel its way to heavy
and i new it wont be the fastest arount the track , and it ient the fastest car on the world even the gupert (race) reatches 415 km/h it realy waists a milion dollar

unroolyme if you put 1001 Bhp throuthose tire thed be slicks in 15m it has to be AWD because otherwise it would drift uncontrollably

the stig is the crappest driver i haver ever seen he should just cone out off his helmit because he is shit

#321, its not the power that makes the wheels spin, its the amount of toque (or how ever you spell it!)

Just to answer Bondy’s comment (no. 204) James is not the Stig, he can’t be, they are not the same shape, or height, for that matter.

Also, he said that they have never been in the same scene together. YES THEY HAVE. For a start, they were together in a scene during the Britcar 24 hour race, AND also, what about the race across London?

And before anyone questions that, yes it is the same Stig, as he is the same shape and height in those scenes as he always is. So there.

was sooo annoyed that the veyron didnt win, tho it doesnt suprise me! its way to heavy! although it did look much better round the track (cld be a bit bias there since im not a big fan of the zonda!)
wat i want to know is y they can fix the zonda when the stig blew its engine but not the “dent” in the veyron, who knows how that happened an wat cld hav been affected!!

i loke the idea of getting lewis hamilton back, would be good to see him beat the stig’s time!!!

i dont believe that the veyron wasnt top! must be its weight or some thing, as the boys said.

Don’t be stupid all of you. Veyron weights a little more than 2Tons and 980bhp, zonda F has around 1230kg (650bhp?) and Gumpert 1,1Tons (700bhp). That 1:18.3 time is mind-blowing when you consider that.

ULTIMA GTR (1m 12.8) WHO’S THE DADDY !

I thought the veyron would be the fastest ???????????????

I don’t care that the Zonda beat the Veyron on the track. I want a mind blowing super-car not a stupid hyper-car, well not the Zonda any way

tbh i didnt expect the veyron to go top but i was hoping it would.

It really was the weight, if you stripped it our it would be the fastest, if VW made a race version like the DB9 into the DBR9 then you would have the best car outside F1

problem with the ULTIMA GTR, it is not a full production car! so it cant go on the board!

i think it would have been the buggati. zonda had no chance against the buggati.

Why did JC say the veyron had 987hp when its actually got 1001hp!! This is ludicrus! Whats going on!

well amazing i never knew that the jaguar could do that you played french music heating and you still got there

ha ha stig stole your fame

well that is just bad you think you can do every ones heads in! just for a mastike.

as soon as the vayron did got round the hamerhead i did now that i wouln’t be at the top

#335, check your spelling mate

veyron wasn’t as good as expected.
i had a feeling it wouldn’t beat the gumpert, shame.

good show btw, keep up good work lads!

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top gear is crap is a crap proggram its shockin it has shockin cars i think motor bikes are far better all the cars on it a crap the gumpert is crap the stig is fat he never talks he has no freinds and the bugatti is crap.
Whoever put this wants shooting!

and also cannot spell

I personally think this was best episode since the Hamster won for once in his life and that the Big Green Giant(Jeremy Clarkson, No offense) didn’t win.
I mean he always wins
I personally think that he cheats
Jokes.
But i think that it was unfair when The Stig stole Hamster’s moment but then again Jezza and Hmaster shouldn’t have been arguing over who should pull the lever.

P.S Top Gear Rules!!

great power test by james, good race
disappointed about the veyron

good show though

I just realised that someone critcised the show nd well go stick ur fingers up your ***.
And get lost
By the way spelling mistake in last comment i wrote
It’s meant to say Hamster

P.S Top Gear Rules!!

brilliant episode again, but why dont they give the Ultima gtr a proper test and let the stig do a lap in it.

I think bugatti will have reggreted not letting them have a veyron on the track earlier.

It looked slow in the corners and it’s very heavy,(for a supercar.)

no. 308, id watch wot u were puttin there, cnt, looks a bit like c**t eh?

idiot!

harry enfield was hilarious, clarkson island, very witty!

Oh nd by the way does anyone know where i can get the addres for the Top Gear Studio – UK?
It’s very important

I HATE ZONDA

GoHamster!! has aids

To #21…….A carrado vr6 is not nicer then a Veryon in any way.

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

THE VEYRON DOES NOT HAVE 1001 HP

IT HAS 1001 PS

THAT IS EQUAL TO 987 HP

PS AND HP ARE NOT THE SAME!!!

Well atleats im not a ho**s**ual

Woah guys calm down

i prefer the zonda to the veyron and always has done and i thought the zonda would beat it butt i thought that the veyron would do better than that and also the bugatti looked slow and it is to heavy to do any quicker time than 1.18.4 and it looked particully slow in the corners

Actually i prefer the ZOnda because it looks good nd i don’t reckon it’s that heavy

Are you doing the Brit Car 24h this year?
if not im really disappointed

The Veryon is rubbish it cannot go around corners properly.

“I can’t believe that the Zonda is faster than the Bugatti, and that the Bugatti wasn’t at the top!! I was speechless!”

Which is faster: the Cheetah or the Lion? Power, is nothing without control… an old and true Pirelli slogan.

I love TG, watched it for years, I also love the Veyron but some comments above are a bit OTT, “gutted it didn’t win, devistated it didn’t come top, dissapointed it didn’t break the track record”.

How many of you lot have a Veyron ?, how many of you are going to buy one ?, probably no-one for both answers.

It’s a car, a great looking car, brilliant in a straight line, brilliant in the race with the truffel but it got beaten around the track by a Zonda, ofcourse it will get beaten, the Zonda is much lighter and is designed for driving like last night, Veyron designed for a fast straight line race which it thrashed the Zonda.

I’m as dissapointed in it as the majority of you but it’s one race, one TV program, i’m not devistated, gutted it didn’t come top, because the ways it’s designed and built, it shouldn’t come top going head to head with lighter cars.

Still a great car and yes , maybe is the brake spoiler was down it might have gone faster but still wouldn’t have gone fastest.

Great show, great car, great presenters. end of…

I have an idea – why didn’t the presenters draft behind other cars – like in cycling. They say that this way if you’re close enough you save up to 30%?

I think that the stig could push the veyron harder id didnt look fast and in a strait line bugatti can really unleash that power and in the corners you could se that he didnt perform to the max you could say that the owner was looking to much and the stig was nervus.

absolutely fan bloody tastic,keep up the good work ..loved the reason why the hamster couldn’t drive the zonda…sheer genius..nice one jezza..you blokes have the best jobs in the world..ps during the news the blonde to jezza’s left was super fit..top totty and nice slippers jezza…dave

OMG!! I LOVE the Zonda F roadster!! And the noise is just pure italian [CENSORED]
yaaa…
I would prefer the Veyron if I would be travelling for long distances

i reckon if top gear let stig practice in the veyron 4 a few days so he gets used 2 it in the corners i reckon the time wud decrease

I love James’ stripey jumper
Hope Richard’s daughter, Willow, gets well soon. tonsillitis is awful to have. Especially at such a young age. :-/

I wasn’t that surprised the veyron didn’t was the quickest. When you look at it, you don’t get that fast look as when you look at a 911

OK,
So there was an economy race. But come on, where are the stats. Why drive for 17 hrs and not give us the data. average mpg per car. How much fuel was actually used. Cost per mile.
Make my day.

The Veyron is most definitely the better car. I’m surprised it didn’t come first because of 4WD – better cornering and take-off, and better braking, acceleration (as proven in the drag race), better everything really.

Still, they should get a Sang Noir or Pur Sang Veyron on TG, could be faster.

Plus, the Zonda F is a great car, but they should get the final Zonda special, the Cinque. It would probably trash everything. The Veyron is still my favourite car though. No Zonda could ever be.

Whoops, I was actualy post number 368.

I thought the bugatti is better than the pagani
1001 BHP vs. 650 BHP
but the bugatti is very heavy so it can’t go round corners like the pagani
I still think the bugatti is a better car

Who thinks that Bugatti will make a 4-door model?

If Bugatti let the Veyron round the top gear test track, when the car was released, then it probably would’ve reached the top spot on the board.

the reason the buggati wasnt the fastest was because they had kept the rear spoiler up so it couldnt reach its top speed

Zondas suck

How the hell did that Jaguar make it in that economy race?????

I agree, hynesbeans, and they likely didn’t have the second key for it either.

James please get rid of that stripey jumper!

i noticed on the veyron that the boot spoiler was up, that means the veyron wasnt at full power, when you put the special key in to make it do 250mph the spoiler goes down and the car itslef gets lower, on yesterdays show the spoiler was up so that means the veyron wasnt at its full power, does any one agree??

I thought the Veyron would of had a better time than th Zonda. But I think this was because the the Stig was slow on the corners wit the Veyron and took the corners a lot more quickly with the Zonda.

I AGREE COMPLETELY.

Really, I wasn’t being sarcastic, I do agree.

If the 2nd key was in, it would be 1st place by far!

i think that dint on the veyron could have been done by the stig, so they may have told him to keep back a bit and maybe not to try so hard. Could this be why it wasn’t as fast a we’d hoped for.

Well, another superb edition…..my 8 yeard old son James and I managed to get the women to tape Divas 2 on the other side so that we could catch the action! Veyron still looks and sound great, so what, slower on the track, if I could afford one I bet it would be the better car on a long Top Gear type trip. Well done James on his track test…..lets have some more. Roll on next sunday.

I was expecting the V8 powered something, and the cool wall. Nevertheless, a truly epic episode, keep it up!.

I DON’T AGREE!
THE SPOILER HELPS PUSH THE CAR DOWN SO THAT IT HAS TRACTION. ITS CALLED DOWNFORCE. THEREFORE, WITHOUT IT THE VEYRON COULDN’T CORNER AS FAST! REMEMBER THE KOENIGGSEGG! ALSO THE AIR BRAKE WOULDNT BE ABLE TO OPPERATE AND IT COULDN’T BRAKE AS FAST! THE SPOILER IS VITAL FOR THE FASTEST POSSIBLE TIME!! SO PLEASE STOP SUGESSTING TO PUT IT DOWN.

AND! THE SPOILER DOESN’T AFFECT THE POWER OF THE CAR, THE CAR REACHES TOP SPEED WITH IT DOWN BECAUSE ITS MORE AEORODYNAMIC. BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRACK RACING!

DO YOU NOT THINK THAT THE TOP GEAR PRODUCTION TEAM,(OR THE STIG) WOULD KNOW HOW TO GET THE FASTEST POSSIBLE LAP.

BOOM!

POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER!

Great show last night lads. The Veyron/Pagani feature was worth the wait. Go Pagani! The economy run could have been a bit more entertaining after the great stuff we have watched in the new series so far. I’m looking forward to the bus racing!

YOU GAY BOY!

Yea the show yesterday was mad like the zonda and the veryon but there wasent enough on the veryon. like the veryon is THE GREATEST CAR ………………………………………………………………. .Pause …………………………………………….Pause…… …….30 mins later….IN DA WORLD..

There was not enough stuffon the latest news and what about the V8 engine thing it was cla but u could use it for like hovering

I wonder after watching that race just how much fuel is left in the tank of most cars when the needle is pointing to E? I’m thinking quite a bit.

Anyway GREAT SHOW! the Stig stealing Hammond’s glory by switching on the lights was hilarious. The Power test was really good and I also believe what James was saying about his hair getting in the way and not being able to see, happens to me all the time.

The 2nd key to put the spoiler down in a veyron is for straight line performance people. that is done to make it as slippery as possible, that means to make it aerodynamic. for cornering you need downforce, therefore you need a spoiler to push the car down for traction….!!!
also just for the record, the aero hyper V8 fast one from usa will never be as good as a veyron. try driving that from italy to london. i promise you would end up in a hedge somewhere!

what was all those dents on the bottom of the veyron about? the zondas noise was wicked!

IT’S ALL A HOAX!

THE STIG WAS LIKELY TOLD TO HOLD BACK ON THE VEYRON TO CAUSE THE CONTREVERSY THAT ABOUT 400 PEOPLE HAVE POSTED ABOUT ALREADY.

veyron not fastest on track was obvious

Start the veyron with its wing down, and soon as the stig touches the break, the wing will rise, as james demonstrated in Germany with the top speed test. The main reason why I was shocked was because of the caparo T1. That understeered wildly, but stig still did a 1:10, and the veyron, whose acceleration and braking is the same, did a 1:18.

Maybe they should use the 1001 bhp veyron rather than the one with less power but a DSG gearbox.

Whatever the reason, I was shocked!!!

the veyron not on the top is the reason for VW not wanting it on the track in the first place i recon. they knew it wouldnt be fastest and thought why bother?! why cant it just be the best GT-car ever. still is for me anyways!

Cant compare the caparo to the veyron! honestly! they are just worlds apart!

i though the veyron would walk all over the zonda… but i guess i was wrong

i didn’t think the veyron would be fastest as it is heavier and takes time to accelerate. The spoiler would also have slowed it down. The veyron is still best in my mind though

was the veyron in race mode or ordinary road mode. the ride height was high for race mode.

the veron would have won if the amazing speed brake wasent so powerful

Overall a really good episode. Reminds me of why I started watching Top Gear. It presented realistic situations with humorous presentation. No one got hit in the head with bricks doing a dangerous and unfunny bit of sketch comedy. I was not surprised by the Veyron not doing so well. In fact, it did better than I would have thought as it is essentially a top speed car and not a track day car. It is a marvelous piece of engineering, but it does everything well without being too compromised in the area of comfort for performance. It is still an excellent time for a car that does everything as well as it does. The Gumpert may be faster, but the Veyron would still be the one I would want to own. It’s simply a better car. I just wish James had gotten to finish introducing the Stig.

I had a funny feeling the Veyron wouldn’t beat the Zonda. I can just imagine it being a more agile car. Think i’d rather have a Zonda too!

Another awesome show! But the veyron wasn’t the fastest on your track?! Say what?! The Zonda was actually faster? That’s quite odd.

Anyway, good segment on fuel economy too. Who knew that saving gas could be dull yet fun at the same time? Maybe in a future segment you should test how long the veyron and the zonda last on a 700 mile trip on one tank of gas.

It was a great show… but I know why it was’nt the fasetest around . cuz its so heavy and as you guys said b-4, he was to afraid of wrecking it like the kkkkkkooooooeeeeeeeeennnn nnnniiiiiigdgsegggg,mwjeh kfjhejg thingy. The Veyron Is still the fastest car ever on topgear and the best looking. I dont care wat any1 says. the Veyron is and always will b the best car ever made…..

The Veyron was never going to beat the Zonda round the track due to the massive weight difference 1.2 tons of Zonda and 1.9 tons of Bugatti. Having said that though the fact it was even close is due to the Veyron’s frankly amazing ability to put down its power. I’ve seen a few people saying how it almost looks sluggish but it’s that control and ability to put power intot use that allows that very heavy car to compete with cars almost half the weight. Have to remember every time that Zonda slips it’s wasted power, 850bhp doesn’t mean anything if only 500 can hit the ground. Definitely would like to see Bugatti do a stripped out lightweight version if it is possible without comprimising the current setup…if they could knock a quarter ton off there then I think we’d see sparks fly!

You only have to look at the Nurburgring times to see that the Veyron was never going to get to the top of the board:

Zonda F 7 min 32 sec (1′ 18.4″)
Veyron 7 min 40 sec (1′ 18.3″)

So, over 14 miles, the Veyron is 0.1 seconds faster. The TG test track is short and has several tight corners where the Veryon’s weight will slow it down. Stands to reason that over a short lap like that the Zonda would be faster.

The Veyron is like two cars rolled into one. In low drag mode with no rear spoiler and the suspension lowered, it’ll go fast in a straight line with with no downforce to aid cornering. Put it in handling mode with the spoiler up and the suspension raised, it’ll corner better but the added drag knocks 20mph off the top speed.

veiron is made for stght line speed and and at goodwood it sund crap compared to a austimartin or a lambo and 2.7 disele engine in the jage is made in dagham essex it a ford engine proper

hi, i watched your episode of topgear on sunday the 23.11.08 when the stig took the veyron round the track for the first time, i think that you have tamed the tame racing driver down.because it looked like the stig was holding back on the track especially on the last corner! i bet many of your regular veiwers think the same as i do, i would be grateful on your take on this
the stig seemed to be pushing the zonda more round the track
cheers jon and lisa mansfield

it was obivious.

The Veyron has got a lot of power,is fast in a straight line and has an air brake . It costs £875000 as well. The Zonda is lighter, nimbler, has a better PTW ratio, looks stupider and breaks down more than the Bug. The Zonda is half a second quicker around the track than the veyron which i’m not surprised at because the fat German one weighs nearly two tonnes. Why would anyone have a Veyron now when the Zonda is quicker on a track and slightly cheaper?

ok sorry stig mentor, i guessed be about a fairly long distance but you get my point in that it was never gonna beat the gumpert, also im sure that top time will be there this time next year.

The koennigsegg is the real board topper. The gumpert and ascari arnt real cars. Even as weekend toys you couldnt bare to drive one on the round and they are ugly.

yeah i wasnt too suprised the veyron didnt beat the Gumpert, as James rightly said, its just too heavy!

how about a stripped out veyron, get rid of the uneccessary bits, strip out the interior, then go again! Buggatti Veyron Supalagerra!!!

Got a spare 800 grand anyone for a new veyron?

Great show chaps, keep it up!

It was again a good show!
Me like this kind of challenges/races!
Good to see that James can drive fast as well…
Looking forward to next week!

how about this 1 quater mile fans i would love to see a 1/4 mile race between the veyron, ariel atom supercharged 1 and the caparo T1. the atom would be fastest off the line but be close at the finish line btween the other 2.

oh yes forgot one thing. i liked the zonda F very much. In fact, it may just be the best car…

…in the world

there is a veyron convertable coming out and looks awesome. probably dangerous doin 200+ mph with the top down.

veyron is to heavy

I was gutted by the result absalutally gutted, how could it lose?! ahh well we live on

Great show! Particularly, James’ track skills, once he but a proper helmet on. He could have been first to Blackpool with a helmet!
Enjoyed the ‘eco-race’. Would have been interesting to see where the ‘almighty’ Pirus would have done.
All and all, in my opinion the season started slow and picking up speed.

As everyone has been saying i cant believe the bugatti veyron wasn’t the fastest car round top gears track!!! I was distressed i tell you!!! Apparently i shouted about it in my sleep that night!!!!!!!!

I couldnt belive I would ever see the day. The Veyron only making 5th place and a Jag being able to do 1000miles on a std tank full of Derv. I didnt belive my eyes or ears what is next will we find out that Kylie is a man?

Like i have always said, the bugatti is a big pile of poo, the zonda completly owned the bugatti on the track.

harry post no.246 thinks hes stig!!cruless idiot…

The Veyron is an amazing car. 253 Mph in relative comfort. But the comfort and weight ruins it’s cornering, you could see the under steer, and hear the squeal.

However, the Veyron could be a great pedastool for a future super car. I’d be very interested to see Bugatti use the same engine in a lower, lighter car. They could even simply do a stripped down version. More carbon fiber, cut out the silly suspension and lose the hefty interior. I have no doubt they could shed 500kg.

I think the bugatti is a sub zero supercar but no mach for the Koenigsegg CCXR the BEST SUPERCAR EVER MADE. UNLUCKY CLARKSON £!LOL!£

awesome show once more, really going back to the roots of what made top gear an awesome show originally

enfield doing clarkson was class as well…
the best…..IN THE WORLD!!!

Great work once again, only complaint is why can’t we have it on at least twice a week?? You are starving us of good TV for 6 days a week is there no mercy?? ;p

Hi was the dint on the right hand side on the side skirt? Well done Stiggy…. and did u have a nice sleep?

cant believe the Veyron didnt top trump, but the understeer was evident. O, and how did the big jag ever find its way all the was to blackpool. Insane

I am so glad that we don’t have to suffer through the TG stuntman segment in this series. So far so good.

I miss the Cool Wall.

I miss da cool wall 2 and is the dint in the veyron o the right hand side on the side skirt?!?!?!?

I’m guessing the Veyron was slower due to understeer in the corners.

Can’t wait to see Pagani’s next car…

the vyron dispointed Me . hé guys why you don’t Try The mercedes 190 EVO 2 ??

I know that the Zonda F is fast but to be faster than the Bugatti was a shock. In fact, I thought that Bugatti is the fastest car (pause) in the world, but to be fifth was really a something I didn’t expect. Anyway the show was wonderful and I found that James’s clip is the funniest and coolest clip ever.

That was the biggest dissapointment on the show ever. I am so crossed that the Veyron didn’t top the lap board, what a usless w****r!

WHERE WAS THE DINT IN DA VEYRON !?!?!?!? SOME SAY PLS

That was one of the best Top Gear’s I’ve ever seen. Great one!

That Zonda is incredable, weldone James for the test drive.

But….My god, the Veyron…What happened there? So now we know why Bugatti wouldn’t let Top Gear take it around the track…It’s not as fast as everyone thinks. That’s got to be one of the most disapointments in car history!!!

When I watched it go round the first few corners, you could tell it wasn’t going to be that fast, (I say wasn’t going to be that fast…), you know what I mean. Good for straight line speed & acceleration, I doubt theres no road car can touch it, but for going round corners…No-no.

You know,….

Watching James doing the power tests was really cool. He gives a totally different perception in the terms of how he does convey the idea about the magical Zonda. Apart from Jezza of being a big kid with a big toy. I though that James in the other hand gave the words and addressing to the people who actually have the cash and would consider buying such a machine, but a the same time he kept this TVShow-environment COOL to the 14yrs old.

Would love to see James more often on the track with some nice machines to drive. I think he has his own special way to say things just like Clarkson and Hammond.

However, I also would like to thank to the Production staff and every single one who make this show a truly quality TV Show. TV not for commercial purposes or profit. But Quality Television with Passion for the art.

Thank you guys! Greeting form Chihuahua, Mexico

there was a big dent in right side of the veyron under the door near the bottom of the car

It was a great Show, James Actually left me Speachless, He has come a long way.

The Race was awesome, who would it thought, an economy race on top gear would be exciting, and that Hammond would it won in the smallest car.

Now the biggest Shock I’ve recive is the whole Bugatti Veyron being 1:18.3 -WHAT- Yes I know, Is a lot heavier than the Paganni Zonda, but come on!.

Then Again, the TG test track is kind of special, it’s for agile cars more than anything, big cars like the Veyron probably would be better of in bigger tracks.

AMAZING TV SHOW… KEEP IT COMMING

THE ZONDA IS BETTER THAN THE VEYRON ,

I can’t help but laugh at the Prius when i see the Jag put up those kind of mileage figures.

and Capt Slow doing a power test? loved it. who knew he could be so daring once you put a helmet on him. =P

No suprise here,VW should be glad it was the TopGear track with its long straights and full throttle sections or would be even slower..

When? is TopGear gonna test the real world record holder, The SSC Ultimate Aero around the TopGear track???
What is our Euroboys afraid of??

No SSC?
No Saleen Twin Turbo?
No Viper ACR?
No Mosler?
No ZR1???
No Viper ACR???
wtf??

It looks to me, like Andy and Jeremy and Co. are afraid of another Yankee Pushrodder taking the topspot away from the so-called “sophisticated” set??

lol

AWESOME

Huge Surprise for me but i dont care if it was slower than the zonda. i would take tha veyron every single time

unbelievable…..i could bet my money on the veyron….but i have to say that hamster is right about what makes a super-car and on the track, zonda was just better and more good looking…..nice work…

disappointed

@ 4realist

They just want the stig alive because the track is NOT a straight line…. why most of these american manufacturers aren’t test their cars in the ring…???

and pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase to all of you… stop wrighting bullshits all the time… think before you type something… i already had 3 strokes reading this blog…

Yankia bible bashing cars suck thats why!

Definitely not the best episode of TG I’ve ever seen… Had a very conservative theme, what with a powertest from JAMES MAY and a race that tested FUEL ECONOMY.

Yank cars.

Four wheels
Suspension (If you can call it that)
Chassis
Four or two seats
Big engine….

A simple car for a simple country that can’t spell or speak English. (The latter “Simple” meaning “Thick”.)

Even America’s best car, the “All American” Ford GT had British bits in it, some of which were done by a couple of guys from Lotus….Just think of it as an P-51 Mustang, the best bit was British.

Ta-ta.

Awsome show, but PLEASE tell James to get rid of that 3+ year old School boy shirt(or Jumper! However you call it)

Aren’t you guys sponsored by some clothes company? I mean, it’s not as if you made 25.000$ per year no?

10/10..
Keep up the good work lads!

Deeds
Montreal,QC,Canada

Oh and obviously if they crashed it, it would be a very pricey crash, so I guess the Stig had to “take it easy”

bugatti is a grand tourer…don’t expect it to be a track day special

They should get Lewis Hamilton to drive the Veyron around the track!! Now that would be a show

Please bring back the Racelogic VBox!!!!!

How cool would that bee, displaying the actual speed and G-Meter around the track.

On a proper super car!!!!!

Great show!!!!!

LOL the British”bits” are the trash peices ya noob.
ask Clarkson about that..
He admitted on TopGear that the British Arm of Ford trashed his car with the electronics(u Brits still cant connect a wire properly after all these years??? Now THATS thick! LOL
Truth is, the ZR1 and the Viper ACR,, SPANK the Ford GT ..
AND right NOW, at this very moment,, the Viper and ZR1 OWN the Ring!!
Faster than every car on the Top Gear powerlap board! LOL
truth hurts aye? POMs?
And when the SSC hits the Ring with 1200 hp, a 2800 pound curb weight and enough down force to stick to a tunnel ceiling at speed,, some of you EuroTards might just have to kill yourselves when the 7 min barrier falls.
hear that, folks???
Thats the sound of a billion little Brit egos breaking into a million pieces..
Its probably a familiar sound by now..

The Veyron reminded me of a Scalextric car, ultra quick down the straights but dreadful at the corners! I enjoyed last nights episode, it was a nice refreshing watch to finish off a otherwise dull week.

Keep in mind Veyron is, I don’t know 3 years old? Compere it with 3 years old supercars.

I agree with Maxx 53, moreover, the Veyron is not designed as a race car… A tremendous GT yes, track day car, nope

Not a surprise at all…
We could all see and hear the Yelling of the Veyrons wheels. Seemed as if the car is too “computerised” for its own good, and would not allow its driver to commit any foul play.

Looking at the stigs lap again and again… seemed as if the car wouldn’t “let go”. no sliding, no drifting, and no drama… but my GOD, what a devine engine sound !!!
Personally, if I had the money to spare, I’d pick the veyron on any given day of the week.

oh and one other thing : Does nobody remember the episode when Jezza took an Audi A8 for an 800 mile trip on a single tank ?

I did like the : “Fuel is burning away nicely” bit.

Nicely done.

I knew the Zonda would be faster! I simply adore that car. Having been in a Roadster F at MPH, I must say it’s a wonderful car to sit in.

Of course James was fabulous in it and I am happy that he enjoyed it!

The race was epic only a bit sad is that they had announced that TG3 would be there and some people I know went for James and he didn’t show up until it was all over. That’s a wee bit sad but the race was great and The Stig was fabulous!

All in all a great episode and I can’t wait until next weeks!

great show … always enjoy it …. the section with the fuel consumption race was a bit boring and dragged out ….. lets stick to Speed … who cares about fuel consumption when we speaking entertainment … Stay Cool

i think that even the stig was afraid of this car… because of its speed or because of its value! it looked like he didn’t go full throttle. if he did, the time could easily be 1.16 something, because veyron’s acceleration and decceleration abilities can’t be compared with any other car’s.

i love hame and cheese

very surprised about the result, ecpecially as the TG track is a power track. i’m very happy neither were faster than the koenigsegg

i was gutted when the veron wasn’t the fastest but it is heavy and power isn’t evry theing lotus have proved that with all their cars

Great show but veryon??? After seeing the lap I noticed it was too large and heavy along the corners though it was fast. However that power could not go down at all. Stig I will try to have an afternoon nap just like you too someday.

i was gutted whan the veron wasn’t the fastest but power isn’t everthing as lotus have proved that with all their cars

I’m not surprised with the Veyron not being the fastest, as it’s not an uncompromising racecar-ish car as the Gumpert, Zonda F, Koenigsegg. In my opinion it’s more like the Mercedes-Benz Gullwing, it’s more about the glamour and I adore both cars for that. But the Veyron is not a race car, it’s just too heavy. Nimble wasn’t a word in the Bugatti vocabulary when they built the Veyron, the-most-powerful-car and fastest-production-car was on the other hand. I think it’s the upped duel of, say a Corvette and an Atom, the Veyron vs. Zonda duel. The Corvette and the Veyron’d go seriously fast in a straight line, but in the corners they’ll be overtaken by the lighter, more nimble cars. Like curling really, easy going straight, but when you’ll have to turn, it gets really messy – especially if you’re carrying a lot of weight.

It looked like stig actually played it safe with the veyron and was braking a lot.i understand.i wouldnt want to be blamed wrecking a million dollar car(im not from the uk).and of course it weighs almost 2 tons so its quite heavy.

i was amazed when both of the cars but i was shockd the veyron wasnt the fastest thing to go around the track, but also you have got to remenba that the car is about 2 tons so that is going to effect how it coners also the veyron is built for staright line speed because notice every test has bn on a stright line so they can get the top speed out of it

ite boys show was good may just needs to learn to drive lol

IM SORRY PEOPEL FOR NOT GETTING AROUND THE TRACK FAST ENOUGH AND I DID SCRATCH THE CAR ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE OFFSIDE SOZ

The Stig didnt damage it, it was me… i could not for the life of me see out of the car properly; even with a booster seat.

great job with the zonda review! jag in the economy run was absolutely crazy

the Zonda is a better car. if i were given the choice between the 2 and money did not come into consideration, i would take the Zonda because its a true super car.

i dont know wth people are on about the bugatti int crap at all its just too heavy n neads to have a load ov w8 taken off it n that will make it better around the track and it will rag the top position on the leader board n i think the stig was a bit nervous drivin the multi million pound car

it is and it stays an awesome car, but just by the looks of it you should see it’s a way more heavy car then the zonda..

though I prefer the veyron, it has it’s own style, a bit classy, not an animal shouting around, like the zonda is.

James was just perfect !!! I really enjoy the whole show. Thanks for making my Mondays (I can’t watch it on sunday) great !!!

I think Veyron fans can accept the defeat in an other way. If when the Veyron was first show on TG, Bugatti would have letted Top Gear race it on the track it would have ended up… 1st. Simply because the Koenigsegg with the TG wing was shown in 2007, and the 3 others after… Making the Veyron a former “fastest around the track”. Only Bugatti didn’t lend their car.

I think if Jeremy sees this he will be less disapointed.

ma mate Reaj Miah Loves ham and cheese and he said its better than top gear

I love you stiggggg!

the veyron is the coolest and best car ever but it is too powerfull for a track.

When JC drove the S-type Jag round the Nurbergring he was very rude and nasty about it’s diesel engine as I remember. But now he can’t sing the praises of that engine high enough. Is he on the turn ?

I was gutted when the veyron did not top the power board, it was like one of those moments when your watching a world cup came and England get knocked out – that sinking feeling!

Obviously, England world cup games are no way near as important as Top Gear on a sunday but it’s like only way you can describe that empty sinking feeling, still the Zonda was great WHAT A CAR!

i knew the zonda f would win because it had better handling qaulity than the veyron , on the straight as we saw the veryon booted it

Never thought James could look sexier, but if he drew up beside me in that Zonda……Oh boy!!!!

I ABSOLUTELY LUV DA VEYRON ND ITS NOT A TRACK CAR BUT IT WLD BEAT NE CAR IN A STRAIGHT LINE 4 E.G THE NE CCXR DAT LOSE 2 DA VEYRON EVEN DOE ITS FASTER DA BUGATTI IS DA BEST IN DA WORLD ND THE ECONOMY RACE WZ A LARF.

I WNA C MRE STUFF DONE WID DA BUGATTI

If Bugatti did a light weight Veyron then it would easily be the fastest. Its just because its too heavy. Remeber the Zonda F is made entirely by carbon fibre. I don’t think they Veyron has any carbon fibre at all and the veyron has lots of equipment and safety features which adds a lot of weight. Please Bugatti make a light weight version then make the stig drive it against the Typhoon fighter! It was very close the last time :p

I totally expected the zonda to win because it’s a much better car.

OK first things first James Awesome and Frankly hilarious drive of the Zonda but get a new wardrobe cause if you need Stig to drive for you again those colours really dont suit him.
Ok next Jeremy, Mr Clarkson we all knew the bug would be a big fat lump round the track it cant put the power down its not a skittish little racer, it is a comfortable stylish exquisitely made state of the art super sports car. It was like comparing a the new Type R with the old one we all knew the old one would beat it round a track because its lighter and the handling is set up and more capable for being chucked round a few corners.
Thirdly and finally I love u guys i always have and always will not in a creepy im coming to get you way I always watch Top Gear even on Dave yes I am one of those people you could offer me a job if you like i probably know more about cars than Hammond! sorry Richard
See you sunday

The Veyron would be the fastest on a circuit that is less twisty, there isn’t enough sections in the tg track to let it demonstrate its true speed.

You guys are getting a bit average. Bit like last season. Still miles ahead of the Oz Top Gear though. 2 suggestions. Muscle cars from the 70’s. From the countries that made real muscle cars. i.e. USA and Australia. Bit biased because I drive an XB Falcon (Mad Max etc). A challenge from Argentina to Alaska.

understeer

i love ham and cheese

I reckon also additionally to taking the back bit of the VEYRON that helps it braking, through being an obstacle against the air when braking, and so brakes;
i reckon when taking off the roof of the veyron or making it a light convertible, it will lower the centre of gravity level in the Veyron, and so it will be more heavier towards the ground, giving it good grip, the risk of spinning upside done round and round, is reduced.

And again additionally making the whole body out of carbon fibre, all this changes must make the veyron lighter, give more pull towards the ground, and make it more nimbler in the corners, sliding its way through the corners.

You need proof? Well look again, at the lap race between Bugatti Veyron and Bugali Zonda;

Wasn’t the roof of the Zonda, down???

i’ve been watching a whole lot of car movies and can not believe that the veyron gets beaten by the zonda f roadster. ok, the zonda is lighter and has more hp per tonn, but the veyron is just to quick of the line to lose…
how it is possible that the veyron is that much quicker in a drag race but has no advantage of this on a track?

u can see the veyron is so undramatic in the corners and loses because of this.

i think also that the Stig is paid of by VW to make him not trash their prescious car.

If just Top Gear could test the veyron without the traction control turned on, it would win!
please let the Stig rip the veyron to pieces with aggressive driving, no TC and the power upgrade that VW has announced and i would bet u anything it would be on the top.
Guaranteed!!

helloooo me

Better than last week, but the show can’t dip to last weeks level again or it risks becoming a poor characature of its former self.
More cars, more tests, less stuff for the kids.

Back to the studio…………….

I was almost willing the Veyron to come top, despite never having warmed to it, primarily because it looks so bad. It was a bit of a surprise though, but then again, the Gumpert is intended solely for that kind of thing.

It looks good too.

The Episode was absolutely hilarious and a good old fun. It was great seeing James doing a power test to none other than the Zonda F and the Blackpool race was really entertaining (although at low speed)

That being sad, I just can’t believe the Veyron didn’t cream everyone else on the Power Lap Board! I just can’t believe it…

But let’s face it…I think it is still undeniable that the Veyron is the King out there. I mean in the real world, in a real race let’s say from London to Italy, all those other cars on the Lap Board don’t stand a chance! They will either explode or make you feel sick. And in any case wouldn’t get as fast and as comfortable and as entertaining to your destination.

The Veyron is still the King.

all im gonna say is wow. i always prefered the ccx to veyron and looking at it its tyres were schreeching and it looked slow. james haha epic
when the ccxr comes to the trach it’ll destroy everything

1 more thing the bugatti is a fatty car. it will only win if it had been stripped out hardcorly and slick tyres. the veyron wasnt exactly mindblowing to me. it seemed slightly boring. yeah it has 1000 ish hp but not the most stricking car in my opinion. ive alwayed preferred zondas and koenigsegg

The Zonda is in many ways better than the Veyron. The Veyron is just a big, heavy Volkswagen with a W16. Its purely a car for Americans, that want to show off and go fast in a straight line.

Does anyone else agree?

(p.s. notice the dent on the right door sill on the Veyron).

the john o groats run in an XJ was just a test of its comfort, jeremy kept going till he was bored! The audi went to edinburgh and back on a single tank.

The Stig needs to take it for another run the Veyron’s feathers weren’t properly ruffled! The Veyron is capable of the best time i know it is!

The zonda is by far a better car than the veyron it faster and looks a heck of alot better!

4realist, you have got no idea what you’talking about! yes, the viper and the ‘vette are great cars,but faster than a Gumpert, a Koenigsegg an Enzo, a Veyron,a Zonda, an MC12 and loads more. Fat chance!

Yes go zonda, I wanted the zonda to win because its my dream car(obvius resons) for the past three years but I thought after seeing the drag race the VW would win easily, I was very wrong!
The Veyron is just to heavy for the track.

i like zondas

Mayby the Bugatti GT they are doing with at least 1101bhp if not around 1300bhp will go round faster, it will go 265mph but 0-62 is still 2.4 seconds.
and they should put the arial atom 500, porche 9ff round.
a bit of subject but i notcied that the fastest car round the nurburgring was an american car, make the stig go round in the ascari a10 and have the british the fastest.

i think that i just posted the 512 comment! WHOAA

PLEASE TEACH MAY TO DRiFT that would be HiLARIOUS and helpful.

ill race the ZOND Across Europe or Asia against a wierd looking train if for some unforseeable reason all 3 presenters had to sell fish at the exact same time.

i think the veyron is overated it may be one of the fastest supercars that you can buy but not everyone can afford one and i wasn’t suprised the zonda won

James’ test was good but was dissapointed about the Bugatti- I really did think it was going to be the fastest.

why don’t you all do a drifting tounoment with cars under £1000

There was one scene in Sunday’s (23 November) Top Gear which I certainly didn’t expect.

Richard Hammond overtook Clarkson during the race. The actual overtaking was not what I did not expect.

What I did not expect was the Woody Woodpecker expression and noise that Hammond generated whilst over-taking.

Watch the show back on iplayer. It is uncanny.

i knew the bugatti wouldnt do it! its too heavy and YES it is probably the fastest car in a straight line but its too heavy around a small track! maybe its better as a top end super cruiser???? i still think it is a brilliant car and the benchmark for any aspiring supercar builder though! as for the rest of the show, spot on as usual still by far the best programme ever on tv keep up he good work guys.

oh yeh and where did the dent come from on the veyron?

Very upsetting that the 2nd worlds fastest car came 5th on the topgear board of shame.
I was siting in front of the tv with my bugatti mug, aftershave, cap,toy car, socks, etc
And after all that fafaith I had in the Veyron it came…5th

hamond is class and clarkson and the stig i cant belive the veron did not come first

As said before! James IS The Stig! James never shows up at the same times as The Stig!

LOVE this episode! Race on!

There was one scene in Sunday’s (23 November) Top Gear which I certainly didn’t expect.

Richard Hammond overtook Clarkson during the race. The actual overtaking was not what I did not expect.

What I did not expect was the Woody Woodpecker expression and noise that Hammond generated whilst over-taking.

Watch the show back on iplayer. It is uncanny.

i like Koenigsegg

I wanted the bugatti veyron to win the zonda hasnt got the passion , I think stig wasnt pushing it to the limits he was scared to crash a 850,000 quid car

go hitla

Its because the bugatti was privately owned and the owner wanted it back in one piece. You could see the stig was not putting it through its paces!

I’m curious to see how fast the Aston One-77 will be in the track. 700 bhp+, carbon fibre, massive aerodynamics, 1500 kg…

i had a bet on with my dad that the veyron would be top lol gutted!

I THINK WE SHOULD TEST I AGAIN THE CAR WAS DENTED IT CAN BE AT THE TOPITS JUST I DROVE IT SO BADLEY DO IT AGAIN WIHT THE OTHER STIG AUL MIC CREARY

The bugatti veyron may of had gone faster if the spoiler was down because the spoiler causes drag.

Do a lap in the Veyron with the ESP off. I’m guessing thet sie Germans don’t allow it?!

i think that the ccxr edition would be very fast as well

i am 14 and my trident job might be making part for F1 cars so u better start watching F1 for the cars which have parts i made > let hope hamilton dont get a F1 car part i made > crashes are the new thing that will be on F1

sory for my english but i am not from england. my only dout of the two laps is that the zonda was repaired by the official zonda mecanics who could also prepaired the car for the track????????????????????  ?????????????

I was pleased to see the Veyron on the track (at last!), but surprised at the outcome. It’s a track that rewards agility (e.g. Atom), not brute straight-line speed. The Veyron is just too heavy.

How did the stig (some say he is James May’s long lost brother)not manage to get the veyron to the top of the power board? I reckon that they should have sent him back out to do a faster time than what he did as the car is incredibly fast and should in theory be the top because of its stats: Top Speed of 252mph; 0-60 in 2.5 seconds and a braking force of 1.3G’s. How did the Veyron fail? Why wasn’t Stig driving better than he was? I was severly disgusted by the lap time. Do it again Stig.

Whoa! 538 comments!
Fantastic show! It was great seeing the stig-coloured veyron on the track! (how did you manage that?)
And we all guessed it would’nt beat the Gumpert. The veyron has got the straight line speed, but as Jeremy said when it was 1st on, it does have more radiators than a house on it… Easy answer, make it out of foam! It would float too!

I would have to agree, the Veyron is to heavy, but the Zonda, I believe could do probably a full second better than it did.

i was not going to think the veyron was gona go top shame VW

Absolutely lost for words… I was sure that the sheer power of the bugatti would make it go around in around 1;14… if you have ever seen a video on the speedometer of the bugatti, it keeps on going up at the same rate as most ferraris accelerate 0-100, i mean yes, the bugatti is nearly 2 tons with the stig in it (or is it) and its not the best cornering car in the world. But come on I expected ALOT more from the bugatti. The whole technology of VW and all the companies it owns was beaten by SWEDES and the koeniggsegg ccx (awesome car by the way, its just we finns dont like swedes)

i agreed with hammond because the zonda looks better than the bugatti and although it got beat in a straight line it beat it round the track. i even bet a 10er that the pagani would win round the track and that proves that the bugatti was slower round the corners than the zonda and and three other cars

to be honest if you saw the veyron, the cornering was SLUGGISH, although it thundered down the straights and follow-through!
however, i LOVE THE ZONDA F and thought I would choose that you see

If u take the buggati round the track and tell the stig to break less at the hammer head especialy. If he didn’t brake as much around the corners he would beat the gumpet by at least 1 second. But i think the stig done GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brilliant. Even though they were driving diesel cars the boys still know how to entertain.
Veyron may not be top but it’s still the most awesome car ever.
LMAO

i think clarkson is kind of hot

Clarkson is an c***, he could have won the economy race easily and in style. That would be a great finalle for the show (the scrip writer is loosing the grip). Otherwise the show was great as always.

“Commander slow” looks good with the white halmet (hehe)!

PS – Please give the three guys from Top Gear Australia a deadly challenge so they die in it. The three of them preferably – they really suck. They could try and generate a style of their own as they are they a lame copy of Top Gear…really bad!

Although it was surprising that the Veyron wasn’t the fastest ever, James was right you know. Back end weight let it down I reckon. Plus, it makes 529bhp per tonne. If its got 1001bhp then it must weigh nearly 2 tonnes! As for the economy race… Top Gear? Economy? Whats going on. Great show though.

the stig needed to stop breaking in the veyron otherwise it would off been the fastest

Hmm, did TG ever have Jack Dee driving that blue four wheeled heap of a Chevrolet?

The Jaguar XJ performed very well…Clarkson knew he could have own the race! He could with any Jaguar with a Diesel engine.

Clarkson you look like a peach..yummie

the veyron should be top send the stig back out and james what a bad joke (some say hes got a stripey top just like mine)

ha the veyron isnt mcuh quicker then an ariel atom with a 2.0 civic type r engine! x

i thought that thae bugatti was gonna be faster i was soooooooooo disappointed!!!!!!!!

the rest of the show was great though

What a shock but the zonda is by far a better car and i was supporting it all the way and think captin slows test run was great

More car tests by James please, it was really detailed, I enjoyed muchly.

Samantha

i recon the veyron is way faster but it lost out on turning round the many bends which the zonda picked up on. i guess that is the only reason why the zonda won.

im not surprised the veryron didnt go top, if u look at the interior its full of leather and stuff. all the faster cars have stripped out interiors and are dedicated racers whereas the veyron is too much of a luxury car. as the ariel atom proved, you dont need a huge amount of power to be fast around the track, weight has a much greater effect

That he does not dent cars, and that when he drives the Zonda and the Veyron he does not listen to anything or make any noises. I know all we know is, hes the Stig. But did no one else notice that? The no music thing in the cockpit views of the laptimes. No-one?

Well, I trully believe that the car’s stability and traction controls were enabled during the powerlap. Maybe that was an imposition from bugatti, maybe it was off and there was only grip holding 1000bhp to the road like that…

Great show though!

“LOL the British”bits” are the trash peices ya noob.
ask Clarkson about that..
He admitted on TopGear that the British Arm of Ford trashed his car with the electronics(u Brits still cant connect a wire properly after all these years??? Now THATS thick! LOL”

Well if the Yanks had built it properly…It wouldn’t have broke for him would it? You Yanks still can’t build cars after, how many years have you been building cars? Or shall I say; ” Attempting to build”.

So which country designed/made a pen that cost $900.000 so it can be used in zero gravity? Cough* USA cough* Russia just spent 20p on a pencil from a local shop. Now thats THICK…Of the Yanks!

Ta-ta, NOOB!!!

Now that the Stig drove a costumer Veyron, maybe Bugatti can give TG a Veyron that the Stig can push to the limits without being afraid of crashing… PLEASE JEREMY ring Bugatti and ask them for a Veyron!! I’m sure they’ll give TG one just so that they can go on the top of the list!!
It’s got to be done again!

I wasn’t surprised in the slightest of the veyron not “out doing” the zonda.
fastest isn’t always the quickest.
I would love to see that super modified Porche GT have a go at the track.. maybe it has.. I’m in the US so i never know whats new on top gear. I have to judge how old of an episode I’m watching by jezza’s hairline, hammond whitened teeth, and capitain slow’s hair length..

I know the Veyron is a heavier car, but I didn’t expect it to be that much slower than the Zonda!

i was pretty surprised by the results, so i have to ask….was the ESP left on or something??

i always knew that Cpt. Slow won’t stay slow forever… i’m glad he found some speed in himself:D
regards from hungary

How did that jag go so far!?
JC had every fuel wasting thing on and he still got there!!

amazing!

Great that they finally let TG have the bugatti veyron, awesome machine.
Shame it didn’t get the fastest lap though.

I like the zonda however i was surprised by the bugatti losing. Bring it on!!!

will you get a DBS on soon and give me an autograph?

i dont know what to talk about

it was expected tht the bugatti wldnt be the fastest arnd the track because its only fast on a straight line but not on track even the nissan gt-r beat the veyron on the nurburing
if some1 disagrees with me then theu can check the top 15 official lap times of the ring n the veyron aint there

I expected that the veyron wouldn’t be the fastest car because of it’s weight. It’s a 2.5 ton weighing car, even that amount of power can’t make that up.

was this the correct testing ground for the Veyron? will the situation be much different at Le Mans for example?

Are you done? or are you going to waste more electrons?

The stig clearly didn’t have esp turned off on the veyron. If anyone ever watches fifthgear…Tiff tested it a good time ago on a small track, and turned off the esp to see what it was like. i rekon the veyron is faster with esp turned off.

Hey people,

i also saw the race on the sunday and i thought it was brill tut richard eh u could off had yeh name down in histroy books lol. Stig the lefgend,

as people have been saying about the veyron i think it was Fith gear pissing around with the car so that the stig messed up ahahaha, But yeh i thought that the veyron would off easly topped it on the curcuit but ooo well i loved that zonda

Nice try captain slow LOOL

i thought the bugati would be at the top but it was not if volk wagen shed off some weight or make a powerful version like a bugati rodstar and shed off some weigt it could be at the top

i was really shocked about the Pagani Zonda beating against the fastest car in the world, to be honest though i would prefer the Pagani Zonda.

Excellent show as usual, loved the Veyron/Zonda drag race. very suprised at the veyrons lap time!
What I want to see is drag race between JC, RH,JM & the stig!
JC-LAMMBORGHINI GALLARDO SUPPERLEGGERA
RH-PORSCHE 911 GT3 RS
JM- ASTON MARTIN DBS
STIG-FERRARI F430 SCUDERIA

Great show.
very interesting the drag between Zonda and Bugatti.
A show with a bored,not interested JC. Something’s going on…

loved the show, the race was actually very interesting, but worried about the accuracy of the big Jag’s fuel guage and trip computer if there was sufficient fuel left to power it for another 120 miles !! sort it out Jag. James in the Zonda was poor, half of the good stuff was done by the Stig. Get rid of the ‘Star in a reasonably priced car’ bit…pointless, boring, and the bit I often turn over to Heartbeat to miss, its only there so the guests can promote something and tell the world just how much up their own backside they really are. Here’s an idea…any chance of a road-test on a car and not a hyper-car for once, you know a road, the thing that the majority of us drive on, the tarmacy pot-holled stuff between the grass verges. I personally don’t care how fast a car can go round the track, that means nothing to me, what i would love to know is what a car is like to drive…on the road, what’s its like to live with. Don’t dumb down like Fifth Gear do but I’m sure you can inject some TG humour into it. Love the races and the challenges, always look forward to them. Just get rid of SIARPC quick, that’s the worst bit of the show.

top gear is crap the best part of u rolled down your mothers leg the nithe she concieved u with the elephant man

tg-girl – I don’t just want to know what the bets were – I want to know what is shown on the screens when Jezza goes “I went on the internet, and I found THIS”

Then again, judging by the reactions, I’m not so sure. Curiosity killed that cat and all that jazz.

i knew the zonda would baet the bugatti because it weighed to much as i said 12 radiators are very heavy and will cause the car to oversterr in the corners

Ceara…I think you meant ‘and all that jizz…’

That was a great show!
It was full of everything that makes Top Gear entertaining and some.

look use r al sayin dat da bugatti sld of gt top spot but dnt u realise da bugatti aint a track car nd obv da zonda wld b cz its a roadstar

The buggati veyron is a very fast car, theres no doubting that, but im not surprised that it wasnt fastest, the fact that it took vw this long to give it a chance shows their confidence in the machiene, its just to heavy, that small amount of understeer in preety much every corner was what did it. Also the veyron isnt that amazing in terms of power or speed anymore, the 9ff gets simerler power from a flat 6!

i dont know anything bout cars,, i only watch it coz of hammond,, and brainiac!!!!

I Think the Veyron has a lot of power but is more a car for a drag i think.
The Zonda is indeed verry fast , but it’s very ugly if you ask me.
However , great episode again!
Grts

I so badly wanted that Bugatti to be the fastest! Denial is an ugly thing! Def gotta do a stripped out version and see what damage it can do! And that Zonda is a thing of beauty! When it hits those high notes it really does sound like an old F1 car!

Nice show guys!

top gear is the best cant wait till sunday i hope they get a bigggggggg chalnge

i dont know if this has already been said or not, but although i was disappointed with the veyron around the track, i expected it because the track (which i think was designed by lotus?) is made for handling, whereas if it were a speed track i believe the veyron would have topped the board by a significant margin. still, i think i prefer the zonda

Having read some of the comments I enjoyed sundays Top Gear, The Stig top, top guy stealing Richards moments was just classic, the boys from switzaland to blackpool, loved every minute keep it boys, James more of the same, top,top gear fan.

loving the show boys, keep it up. very surprising result between zonda and veyron. loved james mays review!!!!!

shoking absalutly shoking some one must of rigged it

POWER! POWERRR !Well done James! But what happened to the Stig, the Veyron looked really slow whilst coming out of chicago and entering hammerhead. I think Sitg should try again and make it look much better than it did in the lap. Looking forward to the next show!

It came as no surprise to me that the Zonda was faster. Yes the Bugatti in incredibly fast in a straight line. But there is just no way it could get all that weight round a track faster than the super light Zonda.

It is no surprise that the Zonda beat the Veyron around the track…unlike the common misconception some Americans do know that real races are won in the corners.

I thought the bugatti veyron would of won. but the zonda is fast as well!

Top gear is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

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I didn’t think the veyron would win, cuz he’s too heavy. If they put a lightweight interior he will be faster

I was not at all suprised to see the veyron not make top spot.
Now get the Ultima GTR 720 round there, it’s british and will dust everything that has been round the track before!

Is it just me or did anyone else think the stig held back in the Veyron ?

it was great on sunday though wasnt it especially when the veyron done the lap. The veyrons good in a straight line but its so heavy it struggles going around corners if you watch it closely.

WHO CARES IF THE VEYRON WAS`NT THE FASTEST.
IT LOOKED GOOD
IT SOUNDED GOOD ( LIKE GOD MOVING HIS TOOL BOX)
AND BY THE GODS I WANT ONE , I WANT ONE , I WANT ONE

yeh he did hold back in the veyron alot !! prbably scared of crashing it or something

Yeh it is a hell of a car though !

Yes, it’s like James said while modifying the Renault: it’s not the power that’s important for a good lap time. However, in that drag race the Veyron made mince-meat out of the Zonda; it’s horifyingly powerful…
By the way, did Jeremy really managed to do that lond road-trip with only one tank of fuel in the Jag, giving the fact that ge drove very uneconomically (God I hate this word) most of the time? Or did he fill it up again when there were no cameras arownd?

yeh but then he said when they checked the fuel tank they said it could do ANOTHER 120 miles
i not to sure about that though ?

your show the other week switzland to blackpool one tank of diesil. I recently did a trip from preston lancashire to aberdeen and back. set off knowing I didnt have enough fuel. full tank going quarter of a tank left when I was leaving and twenty quid in my pocket. I had to crawl at 30 all the way back 9 and half hrs it took and still had quarter of a tank left when I got home. I drive a 94 golf 1.6 petrol I know what you all went through and just wanted to say I knew what you went through. I was taking my girlfriend back to aberdeen to catch the ferry to Shetland. Well done

but i still cant believe that clarkson did it because he had the aircon on full blast he was quite fast to but anyway its a fair jag if it could do that ! wow how did your golf do that?

TOP GEAR GRATEST SHOW IN THE WORLD AND ALWAYS WILL BE I LOVE THEM THREE !!!

They don’t want to be seen in a Peugeot, but the Jaguar with Peugeot 2.7 liter twin turbo diesel
did incredibly well in the last quest to blackpool!?

Don’t tell anyone , I also don’t want to be seen in a peugeot.

Have you seen the Ken Block vid on youtube its mad you got to take a look now thats what i call driving

well i think i was really suprised that the Zonda F did beat the Veyron around the track and that the Veyron didn’t top it. i was wondering that horsepowers do make a difference on the power time lapboard and that if bugatti had sent down the full 1001bhp Veyron, it could have beaten the Gumperts time of 1:17:1. Although, Bugatti is the best overall car between the Zonda and if you dont believe me, watch that clip of the drag race again

The bugatti veyron may not be the best looking car neither is it the fastest round the TG track but it is a beautiful piece of engineering like concorde.

Great show guys. This is the kind of car show and entertainment we are liking and expecting. I would like to congratulate all three on this episode as well as Top Gear in America this season. Those two episodes truely represent the essence of the show, where the cars are the center and the humor is the topping.

Regarding the Zonda vs. Veyron, I must say that I am somewhat disappointed yet I particularly like the sound to the Zonda. Simply blistering. It made me think of that Ferrari/Shell ad. If I had the money, I would buy one simply for the sound it makes.

Once again, kudos!

i didnt know which would win. the veyron is heavy. i think if they gutted all the ritch fancy crap out it and just had it as an engine some wheels and a body it might be muchhhh faster. mind you the bugati is made for top speed you cant hit that top speed on a circuit. especially one like the tg one.

in the endurance race the jag shocked me. personally if i was doing it i would have used that audi a4 or was it a6 that jerromy drove from london to manchester and back on 1 tank ages ago

and where was the v8 stair lift

ohhhh my lord this is a ORGASM FOR MY EARS!!! BEST SOUNDING PRODUCTION CAR EVER!!! PAGANI DESERVES A PRICE!!!

Aaah man, the Zonda was amazing! The sound outta that engine…wow.

Great show!

I knew that the Veyron was´nt gonna be able to defeat the Zonda.

Great power but too much weight, just like an american car!

The veyron seems to be designed as more of a GT than other cars like the gumpert. And as shown on fifth gear, it handles and slides well with the traction conntrol off, but it doesnt dance. Clarkson would never have driven a zonda in the race with the plane a few years ago coz he would have had no buttocks left, but in the veyron he was very comfortable.

hey i think that guy really loves the crap!

I didn’t think the bug would be fastest because it did a 7:40 on the Nordschleife but the new Nissan GTR did a 7:29. It doesn’t matter anyway because if you go on you tube and type in “Ultima GTR: Top Gear test track lap record” you’ll see they’ve still to put a true fast car round there track with the Stig at the wheel.

BOO! Remember racing me James?

Watching the Bugatti getting beaten was like watching somebody peeing on an altar, but it was amazingly satisfying to know that England is higher on that board than Bugatti. Go Ascari A10! And how’d you like our old Jag going Switzerland to Blackpool on a single tank?

I’d like to see the Koenigsegg CCXR on the show. Hell, if they are having economy races, they might as well bring in the biofuel Scandinavian monster and thrash it about a bit. That’s a true Veyron killer if ever I saw one.

By the way, I really would like to see the Maxima on the show

its obvious that the stig didnt rag the veyron because it has to be borrowed off someone. btw thats were the dent came from. blame the owner

James was better than Hammond but not even a fraction as good as Clarkson.
It made a nice change, hopefully we will see more of James May doing POWER tests.

When May said “We all loved the Zonda in series 1!”, what was he talking about. I mean if he was on series 1, he would know, but he wasn’t!

Anyway, glad the Veyron came 5th. It really doesn’t deserve the first place.

No great surprise the Veyron was beaten. It was built to have 1000bhp, not to go fast around a track. As for the economy race, I loved it. It proves you don’t need 500bhp cars roaring across Europe to make good TV, but obviously TG need to redress the balance next time! Great show

TG please remove every 1 top gear is. I can’t believe you have allowed it to remain there. It is childish, insulting and not deserving of being posted. And the poster – use the off button next time

not being an expert on the subject, but the Veyron did look like it had it’s TC on, there wasnt much squirming or twitching ,it looked too controlled. I’ve seen the 5th gear where they turn the TC off. if they didnt allow them to turn to TC off then thats stupid. and yes, why the 2 year wait? they should have just let them do the lap back then when it came out.
great episode, perhaps a some clarity from the TG boys about the TC would be good?

Aww Nic, c’mon… U never heard about 4×4?
I never believed for a sec the Bug would be fast at all. I mean, two tonnes of medieval cannonball? Unstoppable in a straight line, but anywhere else it just hád to suck big time. So I was positively surprised it did so well. I doubt it would’ve stayed on track without the TC.
Having it on the track has to be a truly historic feat tho. I wonder whose strings were lovingly pulled.

not complaining that it didnt come out tops, didnt expect that, it’s not a out and out track car. was just wondering about the TC, of course i know it’s 4 wheel drive:P

i ll bet you my 1989 ibiza diesel with several different colors of chassis (beeing king’s gold, grey, and brownrust on the sides) is cheaper (500€), more economical, much more fun to drive, and..
people love you. you can crash in there garden because your steering wheel has come of, and they still love you. All things modern eco engine powered business loveboat’s can’t do.
it has got some little irritating quality: you have to enter it thru the trunk, and you have to manually electrocute the glowcandles using a bit of wire, or a piece of someone’s fence. i have to mention you can only do so by opening the car’s hood using a lighter. also, mirrors tend to fall off at 150 km/h. driving over speedbumps may open the windows, and you have to steer right to go straight ahead. the device to wash the windows is pointed at pedestrians.

i hereby offer my car to jeremy, because i tried to kill it, but it wouldn’t.

greetings from belgium. And next war, we ll come over and help you lot.

i was realy shocked about the vayron not being the fastest round the track lol the Stig turned the blackpool lights lol that was funny bad look team lol.

its me i own a
zonda f roadster and not a veyron

who was that girl behind jeremy when the were doing the news????
i wan her number!!!

i thought that aswell

About this Audi A8/Jaguar XJR debate…

John O’ Groats: Jaguar XJR 4.2 Supercharged
London – Edinburgh: Audi A8 4.2 TDI

Sorted

Have any of u guys seen the morrisons advert with Hammond in it?
He looks so fit!

Zonda F Roadster is fantastic! Sounds like an F1 car! All I want Mr. Pagani to do now is make a Zonda R Roadster & I’ll be a happy chap!!!

I think the Veyron should go round again in the right weather the right settings because the stig was braking alot the wing kept coming up slowing him down i was shocked when it was put in 6th place.

Yh i think so to

who actually cares about the veyron. u wud be insane to buy one with the new Aston one-77 comin out

The veyron is brilliant but the zonda steals the show for me and the lap time just proves it.